1962 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project Class.
Here we are! Again!!
If you have been following our Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, you know that we have asked the rhetorical question: What if the PFHOF began in January 1946?
After soliciting and obtaining a passionate group of football fans and historians, we sent out a ballot for a Preliminary Vote, in which we asked each voter to give us 25 names as their semi-finalists and 5 in the Senior Pool. Following that, we asked the group to vote for their 15 Finalists in the Modern Era and 3 in the Senior Category. The final stage was to vote for their five Modern Era inductee and one Senior inductee.
This is the result of the eighteenth official class;
Below are the final results of this project based on 32 votes,
Remember that the group took a vote in “1963”, and we have reverted back to the top five candidates entering the Hall PROVIDING THEY MAKE 50% of the vote. This will be put to a vote again in “1966”.
This is for the “Modern Era”
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1963:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Elroy Hirsch E-HB-DE |
1 |
29 |
George Connor T-LB-DT-G |
3 |
21 |
Frank Gatski C |
1 |
16 |
Dick Barwegan G |
4 |
13 |
George Christensen T-G |
20 |
10 |
Lou Rymkus T |
7 |
9 |
Ace Gutkowski FB-TB |
19 |
8 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
10 |
8 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
17 |
7 |
Pat Harder FB |
5 |
7 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
3 |
7 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
11 |
5 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
11 |
5 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
13 |
4 |
Woody Strode E |
9 |
3 |
This is for the “Senior Era”,
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1963.
Tony Latone |
8 |
16 |
Al Nesser |
7 |
7 |
Hunk Anderson |
13 |
6 |
None of the Above |
N/A |
3 |
About the 1963 Inductees:
Elroy Hirsch E-HB-DE, CHR 1946-48, RAM 1949-57: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1963 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1968.
Dubbed “Crazy Legs” because of the strange, jerky way his legs moved when he ran, Elroy Hirsch was one of the most outstanding college players ever. Despite his collegiate success, getting going as a professional took him some time.
Hirsch joined the Chicago Rockets of the AAFC instead of the Los Angeles Rams of the NFL, but he would later call it the worst decision he ever made. The Rockets were awful, and though Hirsch was competent, he was expected to be spectacular. A contract dispute allowed Hirsch to leave the AAFC, and he joined the Rams in 1949.
Hirsch struggled initially, but a shift to the End position rejuvenated him. His 1951 season was one of the best in Rams history, as he led the NFL in Receiving Yards (1,495) and led the Rams to the NFL Championship. He remained one of the top Ends over the next few years and still owns one of the best nicknames in sports.
George Connor T-LB-DT-G, CHI 1948-55: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1963 on his 3rd Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1975.
George Connor was a two-time National Champion at Notre Dame, and he would parlay the skills he learned with the Fighting Irish to nearby Chicago with the Bears for a stellar eight-year career.
An All-Pro on both sides of the ball (Offensive Tackle, Defensive Tackle, and Linebacker), Connor was primarily used on the offensive line in his first two years. Still, his athleticism made him a natural to try at Linebacker. He was arguably better in that role, which likely landed him a spot in Canton.
Frank Gatski, C-LB, CLE 1946-56, DET 1957.: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1963 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1985.
Frank Gatski played college football at Marshall and then joined the American military during World War II. Following the war, Gatski tried out and made the Browns in their inaugural season of the AAFC. Gatski, or "Gunner" as he was known, opened the holes for Motley and expertly protected Graham for years. Easily the best Center in the AAFC, he helped Cleveland win all four Championships and proved his worth in the NFL as the Browns won the NFL Title in their first year after the NFL-AAFC merger.
Gatski, who was so good that he never botched a snap over his entire career, helped the Browns win the 1954 and 1955 Championship, and in his last year in the NFL, 1957, he was with Detroit and won an eighth title.
Tony Latone G-E-C, POT 1925-28, BOS 1929 & PRV 1930: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1963 on his 8th Senior Ballot. Was never inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Nicknamed the “Human Howitzer,” Tony Latone’s path to professional football did not come from the college ranks, as he played semi-pro and worked in the coal mines of Western Pennsylvania. He finally joined the NFL with Pottsville Maroons in 1925, and he is believed to be the unofficial rushing leader of the 1920s. Latone allegedly rushed for 2,616 Yards in six seasons, and the legendary George Halas stated that Latone would have been an all-time great had he gone to college and honed his craft early.
1952 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
Thank you for all of you who have participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, and if you are unaware of what that is, simply, we acted as if the PFHOF had their first class in January of 1946?
We have completed the first two years, where a Preliminary, Semi-Final and Final vote for the 1946 Class, which inducted two full classes
For “1951” a Preliminary Vote with over 130 players whose playing career ended by 1945. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, with the top 25 vote getters named as Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
30 Votes took place
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Tuffy Leemans FB-TB-DB-QB |
4 |
28 |
Turk Edwards T |
7 |
27 |
George Musso G-T |
3 |
27 |
Arnie Herber TB-HB-DB-QB-BB |
2 |
27 |
Steve Owen T-G |
14 |
25 |
Red Badgro E-DE |
11 |
25 |
Ox Emerson G-C |
9 |
25 |
Beattie Feathers HB-WB |
7 |
24 |
Jimmy Conzelman HB-TB-BB-E |
18 |
23 |
Cecil Isbell TB-HB |
5 |
23 |
Joe Stydahar T |
1 |
23 |
Dutch Sternaman HB-QB-FB |
20 |
22 |
Swede Youngstrom G-T-E-C |
20 |
22 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
6 |
20 |
Joey Sternaman QB-BB |
17 |
19 |
Gus Sonnenberg T-FB-TB |
17 |
17 |
Ace Parker TB-DB-QB |
1 |
17 |
Tony Latone B |
17 |
15 |
Doc Alexander C-T-G-E |
20 |
13 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
2 |
14 |
Al Nesser G-E-C |
16 |
12 |
George Christensen T-G |
9 |
10 |
Glenn Presnell T-B |
11 |
9 |
Duke Osborne G-C |
19 |
7 |
George Wilson E |
1 |
7 |
Willis Brennan G-T |
20 |
6 |
Russ Hathaway T-G |
20 |
6 |
Wildcat Wilson TB |
18 |
5 |
Jug Earp C-T-G |
15 |
4 |
Luke Johnsos E |
11 |
4 |
Joe Kopcha G |
11 |
4 |
Tex Grigg B |
20 |
3 |
Tex Hamer B |
20 |
3 |
Red Dunn BB-TB |
16 |
3 |
Chuck Kassel E |
14 |
3 |
Ray Kemp T |
14 |
3 |
Bo Molenda FB-HB-BB |
12 |
3 |
Bill Owen T-G |
11 |
3 |
Keith Molesworth HB-QB |
10 |
3 |
Carl Brumbaugh B |
9 |
3 |
Swede Hanson B |
9 |
3 |
Potsy Jones G |
9 |
3 |
Ace Gutkowski FB-TB |
8 |
3 |
Jack Manders |
7 |
3 |
Gaynell Tinsley E |
7 |
3 |
Al Blozis T |
3 |
3 |
Wayne Millner E-DE |
2 |
3 |
Dinger Doane FB |
20 |
2 |
Ben Jones FB-BB-WB |
19 |
2 |
Clyde Smith C |
19 |
2 |
Two-Bits Honan B |
17 |
2 |
Milt Rehnquist G-C-T |
15 |
2 |
Jack Spellman T-B |
15 |
2 |
Rudy Comstrock G-T |
14 |
2 |
Joe Lillard HB |
14 |
2 |
Jack McBride FB |
13 |
2 |
Tom Nash |
13 |
2 |
Nate Barragar C-G |
12 |
2 |
Stumpy Thomason WB-TB-BB-HB |
11 |
2 |
Eggs Manske E |
7 |
2 |
Bernie Masterson QB |
7 |
2 |
George Svendesn C |
6 |
2 |
Russ Letlow G-T |
1 |
2 |
Herb Stein C-G |
19 |
1 |
Tillie Voss E-T |
18 |
1 |
Duke Hanny E-T-G-FB |
17 |
1 |
Bull Behman T-E |
16 |
1 |
Doc Elliott B |
16 |
1 |
Jim Laird B-G-T |
16 |
1 |
Dick O'Donnell E |
16 |
1 |
Curly Oden BB |
15 |
1 |
Hap Moran B |
14 |
1 |
Les Caywood G-T |
14 |
1 |
Doug Wycoff B |
13 |
1 |
George Kenneally E |
12 |
1 |
Zuck Carlson G-T-C-LB |
11 |
1 |
Lon Evans G-T |
10 |
1 |
Len Grant T |
10 |
1 |
Father Lumpkin BB |
10 |
1 |
Ernie Caddell WB-TB-BB-FB |
9 |
1 |
Lou Gordon T-G-E |
9 |
1 |
Ookie Miller C-G-LB |
9 |
1 |
Joe Zeller G-E |
9 |
1 |
Ralph Kerchaval WB |
7 |
1 |
Ozzie Simmons HB |
8 |
1 |
Tony Blazine T |
6 |
1 |
Lloyd Cardwell WR-DB-FB |
4 |
1 |
Dick Farman G |
4 |
1 |
Bull Karcis FB-BB-HB |
4 |
1 |
Ray Nolting HB |
4 |
1 |
Joe Carter E |
2 |
1 |
Gene Ronzani T |
2 |
1 |
Pete Tinsley G |
2 |
1 |
Gary Famigetti FB-HB |
1 |
1 |
Parker Hall TB-HB |
1 |
1 |
Bill Lee T |
1 |
1 |
Bob Masterson E |
1 |
1 |
Fred Gillies T |
19 |
0 |
Jim McMillen G |
19 |
0 |
Bub Weller T-E |
19 |
0 |
Hec Garvey G-E-T-C |
16 |
0 |
Frank Racis G-T-E |
16 |
0 |
Don Murry T-E-G |
15 |
0 |
Al Graham G |
14 |
0 |
Dick Stahlman T-G |
14 |
0 |
Butch Gibson G-T |
14 |
0 |
Bill Senn B |
13 |
0 |
Bill Morgan T |
11 |
0 |
Bert Pearson |
11 |
0 |
Clare Randolph C |
11 |
0 |
Al Rose E |
11 |
0 |
Harry Ebding E |
10 |
0 |
Buster Mitchell E-T |
10 |
0 |
Bill Karr E |
9 |
0 |
Bree Cuppoletti G |
8 |
0 |
Kink Richards B |
8 |
0 |
Bill Smith E |
8 |
0 |
Ernie Smith T |
8 |
0 |
Johnny Dell Isola G |
7 |
0 |
Milt Gantenbein E |
7 |
0 |
Jack Johnson T |
7 |
0 |
Jim Barber T |
6 |
0 |
Frank Bausch C |
6 |
0 |
Ed Danowski B |
6 |
0 |
Johnny Drake B |
6 |
0 |
Armand Niccolai T-G |
5 |
0 |
Steve Slivinski G-LB |
4 |
0 |
Clyde Shugart G |
3 |
0 |
Conway Baker G-T |
2 |
0 |
Andy Farkas FB-HB-WB |
2 |
0 |
Abe Schwammel E |
2 |
0 |
Merl Condit HB |
1 |
0 |
Frank Filchok TB-QB-HN |
1 |
0`` |
Carl Mulleneaux E |
1 |
0 |
Jim Poole E |
1 |
0 |
Ed Rucinski E |
1 |
0 |
Perry Schwartz E |
1 |
0 |
Orville Tuttle G |
1 |
0 |
Willie Wilkin T |
1 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
Blondy Wallace |
7 |
22 |
Hunk Anderson |
2 |
16 |
Gull Falcon |
7 |
14 |
Cub Buck |
2 |
14 |
Sol Butler |
7 |
11 |
Pete Stinchcomb |
1 |
10 |
Henry McDonald |
7 |
9 |
Rip King |
2 |
7 |
Bob Shiring |
7 |
7 |
Steamer Horning |
4 |
6 |
Herman Kerchoff |
7 |
6 |
Harry Robb |
4 |
6 |
Tam Rose |
7 |
4 |
Bob Koehler |
1 |
2 |
Lou Smyth |
1 |
0 |
This is for the Coaches/Contributors
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
Jimmy Conzelman |
3 |
29 |
Charles Bidwell |
3 |
25 |
Ralph Hay |
3 |
25 |
Art Rooney |
3 |
16 |
Elmer Layden |
3 |
12 |
Carl Strock |
3 |
11 |
LeRoy Andrews |
3 |
9 |
Dick Rauch |
3 |
8 |
Christopher O’Brien |
3 |
6 |
George Clark |
3 |
6 |
Christopher O’Brien |
2 |
5 |
Dick Rauch |
3 |
8 |
Tommy Hughitt |
3 |
4 |
Frank Nied |
3 |
2 |
Cooney Checkeye |
3 |
1 |
Next Saturday, we will be posting the results of the 1952 Finalists of the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.
Thank you to all who contributed, and if you want to be a part of this project, please let us know!
1951 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
Thank you for all of you who have participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, and if you are unaware of what that is, simply, we acted as if the PFHOF had their first class in January of 1946?
We have completed the first two years, where a Preliminary, Semi-Final and Final vote for the 1946 Class, which inducted two full classes
For “1951” a Preliminary Vote with 130 players whose playing career ended by 1945. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, with the top 25 vote getters named as Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
30 Votes took place
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Don Hutson E-DE-DB |
1 |
28 |
Jimmy Conzelman HB-TB-BB-E |
17 |
25 |
Ray Flaherty E-DE |
11 |
25 |
Walt Kiesling G-T |
8 |
26 |
Swede Youngstrom G-T-E-C |
19 |
24 |
Ox Emerson G-C |
8 |
24 |
Arnie Herber TB-HB-DB-QB-BB |
1 |
24 |
Mel Hein C-LB |
1 |
24 |
Dutch Sternaman HB-QB-FB |
19 |
23 |
Beattie Feathers HB-WB |
6 |
22 |
George Musso G-T |
2 |
22 |
Tuffy Leemans FB-TB-DB-QB |
3 |
21 |
Pete Stinchcomb |
20 |
20 |
Turk Edwards T |
6 |
20 |
Red Badgro E-DE |
10 |
19 |
Cecil Isbell TB-HB |
4 |
19 |
Doc Alexander C-T-G-E |
19 |
18 |
Steve Owen T-G |
13 |
18 |
Bill Hewitt E-DE |
3 |
15 |
Tony Latone B |
16 |
12 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
1 |
12 |
Al Nesser G-E-C |
15 |
9 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
5 |
9 |
Lou Smyth B |
20 |
8 |
Gus Sonnenberg T-FB-TB |
16 |
8 |
Joey Sternaman QB-BB |
16 |
8 |
Wildcat Wilson TB |
17 |
7 |
Wayne Millner E-DE |
1 |
7 |
Bob Koehler FB |
20 |
5 |
Russ Hathaway T-G |
19 |
5 |
Duke Osborne G-C |
17 |
5 |
Ray Kemp T |
13 |
5 |
Willis Brennan G-T |
19 |
4 |
Tex Grigg B |
19 |
4 |
Fred Gillies T |
18 |
4 |
Ben Jones FB-BB-WB |
18 |
4 |
Jim McMillen G |
18 |
4 |
Clyde Smith C |
18 |
4 |
Jug Earp C-T-G |
14 |
4 |
Luke Johnsos E |
10 |
4 |
Joe Kopcha G |
10 |
4 |
Jack Manders |
6 |
4 |
Al Blozis T |
2 |
4 |
Dinger Doane FB |
19 |
3 |
Tex Hamer B |
19 |
3 |
Herb Stein C-G |
18 |
3 |
Red Dunn BB-TB |
15 |
3 |
Doc Elliott B |
15 |
3 |
Bill Owen T-G |
10 |
3 |
Glenn Presnell T-B |
10 |
3 |
Keith Molesworth HB-QB |
9 |
3 |
George Christensen T-G |
8 |
3 |
Potsy Jones G |
7 |
3 |
Ace Gutkowski FB-TB |
7 |
3 |
Eggs Manske E |
6 |
3 |
Gaynell Tinsley E |
6 |
3 |
Bub Weller T-E |
18 |
2 |
Tillie Voss E-T |
16 |
2 |
Bull Behman T-E |
15 |
2 |
Rudy Comstrock G-T |
13 |
2 |
Joe Lillard HB |
13 |
2 |
Jack McBride FB |
12 |
2 |
Nate Barragar C-G |
11 |
2 |
Bo Molenda FB-HB-BB |
11 |
2 |
Stumpy Thomason WB-TB-BB-HB |
10 |
2 |
Carl Brumbaugh B |
8 |
2 |
Swede Hanson B |
8 |
2 |
Ozzie Simmons HB |
7 |
2 |
Ralph Kerchaval WB |
6 |
2 |
George Svendesn C |
5 |
2 |
Joe Carter E |
1 |
2 |
Pete Tinsley G |
1 |
2 |
Duke Hanny E-T-G-FB |
16 |
1 |
Two-Bits Honan B |
16 |
1 |
Curly Oden BB |
14 |
1 |
Jack Spellman T-B |
14 |
1 |
Chuck Kassel E |
13 |
1 |
Hap Moran B |
13 |
1 |
Tom Nash |
12 |
1 |
Doug Wycoff B |
12 |
1 |
Lon Evans G-T |
9 |
1 |
Len Grant T |
9 |
1 |
Father Lumpkin BB |
9 |
1 |
Ernie Caddell WB-TB-BB-FB |
8 |
1 |
Ookie Miller C-G-LB |
8 |
1 |
Bernie Masterson QB |
6 |
1 |
Lloyd Cardwell WR-DB-FB |
3 |
1 |
Dick Farman G |
3 |
1 |
Bull Karcis FB-BB-HB |
3 |
1 |
Ray Nolting HB |
3 |
1 |
Conway Baker G-T |
1 |
1 |
Hec Garvey G-E-T-C |
15 |
0 |
Jim Laird B-G-T |
15 |
0 |
Dick O'Donnell E |
15 |
0 |
Frank Racis G-T-E |
14 |
0 |
Don Murry T-E-G |
14 |
0 |
Milt Rehnquist G-C-T |
14 |
0 |
Al Graham G |
13 |
0 |
Dick Stahlman T-G |
13 |
0 |
Les Caywood G-T |
13 |
0 |
Butch Gibson G-T |
13 |
0 |
Bill Senn B |
12 |
0 |
George Kenneally E |
11 |
0 |
Zuck Carlson G-T-C-LB |
10 |
0 |
Bill Morgan T |
10 |
0 |
Bert Pearson |
10 |
0 |
Clare Randolph C |
10 |
0 |
Al Rose E |
10 |
0 |
Harry Ebding E |
9 |
0 |
Buster Mitchell E-T |
9 |
0 |
Lou Gordon T-G-E |
8 |
0 |
Bill Karr E |
8 |
0 |
Joe Zeller G-E |
8 |
0 |
Bree Cuppoletti G |
7 |
0 |
Kink Richards B |
7 |
0 |
Bill Smith E |
7 |
0 |
Ernie Smith T |
7 |
0 |
Johnny Dell Isola G |
6 |
0 |
Milt Gantenbein E |
6 |
0 |
Jack Johnson T |
6 |
0 |
Jim Barber T |
5 |
0 |
Frank Bausch C |
5 |
0 |
Tony Blazine T |
5 |
0 |
Ed Danowski B |
4 |
0 |
Johnny Drake B |
4 |
0 |
Armand Niccolai T-G |
4 |
0 |
Steve Slivinski G-LB |
3 |
0 |
Clyde Shugart G |
2 |
0 |
Gene Ronzani T |
1 |
0 |
Ade Schwammel E |
1 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
Blondy Wallace |
6 |
20 |
Hunk Anderson |
1 |
16 |
Henry McDonald |
6 |
13 |
Cub Buck |
1 |
12 |
Sol Butler |
6 |
11 |
Steamer Horning |
3 |
10 |
Gull Falcon |
6 |
9 |
Rip King |
1 |
7 |
Herman Kerchoff |
6 |
6 |
Bob Shiring |
6 |
5 |
Harry Robb |
3 |
4 |
Tam Rose |
6 |
1 |
This is for the Coaches/Contributors
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
Charles Bidwell |
2 |
23 |
Joseph Carr |
2 |
23 |
Jimmy Conzelman |
2 |
23 |
Ralph Hay |
2 |
22 |
Elmer Layden |
2 |
12 |
Carl Strock |
2 |
7 |
LeRoy Andrews |
2 |
6 |
George Clark |
2 |
6 |
Christopher O’Brien |
2 |
5 |
Dick Rauch |
2 |
5 |
Art Rooney |
2 |
5 |
Cooney Checkeye |
2 |
4 |
Tommy Hughitt |
2 |
2 |
Frank Nied |
2 |
2 |
Next Saturday, we will be posting the results of the 1951 Semi-Finalists of the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.
Thank you to all who contributed, and if you want to be a part of this project, please let us know!