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Yes, we know that this is taking a while!

As many of you know, we at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the top 50 of each major North American sports team. That being said, we have existing Top 50 lists and consistently look to update them when necessary and based on necessity. As such, we are delighted to present our post-2023-24 revision of our top 50 Oklahoma City Thunder.

As for all of our top 50 players in basketball, we look at the following:

1.  Advanced Statistics.

2.  Traditional statistics and how they finished in the National Basketball Association.

3.  Playoff accomplishments.

4.  Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles that are not reflected in a stat sheet.

Last year, the Thunder had a nice playoff run and proved they are a young team on the rise.  There was one new entrant and one significant elevation.

As always, we present our top five, which saw no changes:

1. Russell Westbrook
2. Gary Payton
3. Kevin Durant
4. Shawn Kemp
5. Jack Sikma

You can find the entire list here.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has rocketed to #8 from #27. He was a First-Team All-NBA selection and the MVP runner-up last year to Nikola Jokic, and the sky is the limit for this young Canadian.

The new entrant was Jalen Williams, who debuted at #46.

We thank you for your continued support of our lists on Notinhalloffame.com.

The problem with running a Hall of Fame-related website is that many of the big ones we cover all have announcements within months of each other.  The backbone of what we do is list-related, so this results in a long push to revise what we already have; specifically, now with our Football and Basketball Lists.

At present, we have a minor update as we have completed the first ten of the 2024 Basketball List, which you can comment on and vote on:

The new 1 to 10:

1. Larry Foust
2. Shawn Kemp
3. Max Zaslofsky
4. Buck Williams
5. Gus Williams
6. Kevin Johnson
7. Marques Johnson
8. Mark Price
9. Bill Laimbeer
10. Mark Aguirre

Rankings are impacted annually based on your comments and votes.

Thank you all for your patience. We will soon unveil more changes to the football and basketball lists.

Yes, we know that this is taking a while!

As many of you know, we here at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the 50 of each major North American sports team.  That being said, we have existing Top 50 lists out and we always consistently look to update them when we can and based on necessity.  As such, we are very happy to present our post 2022/23 revision of our top 50 Oklahoma City Thunder.

As for all of our top 50 players in basketball we look at the following:

1.  Advanced Statistics.

2.  Traditional statistics and how they finished in the National Basketball Association.

3.  Playoff accomplishments.

4.  Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles not reflected in a stat sheet.

Last year, OKC went as far as Shai Gilgeous-Alexander could take them, and coincidentally, he was the only jump on the list.  There were no new entrants.

As always, we present our top five, which was not affected by the last season:

1. Russell Westbrook

2. Gary Payton

3. Kevin Durant

4. Shawn Kemp

5. Jack Sikma

You can find the entire list here.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, wo is arguably a top five player now, skyrocketed to #27 from #36.

We welcome your input and comments and as always, we thank you for your support.

Days after we completed our amendments of those to consider for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, we finished those our revisions on the Notinhalloffame.com Basketball List.

The first thing that we obviously do with the Basketball List is remove those who were inducted. This took out:

Dirk Nowitzki

Dwyane Wade

Pau Gasol

Tony Parker

We then added those who are worthy who are now eligible for the first time in 2024.

Nowitzki, Wade, Gasol and Parker were ranked 1,2,3 and 5 respectively, which means that we will be seeing a significant change in our top ten.

With those remaining, we factored votes and comments that came from all of you, to alter ranks.

The entire list (115 in total) can be found here, but we always present our top ten!

As is often the case, the #1 spot belongs to a first-year eligible player, and it is no exception now, as Vince Carter is on our mountaintop. While there are obvious flaws in his candidacy, namely his leadership in the first half of his career, this is a man who cemented basketball in Canada, made the Raptors, and was an eight-time All-Star. The man synonymous with spectacular dunks, also is an Olympic Gold Medalist with Team U.S.A.. Carter might not be the best #1 we have ever had, but he is by far and away the best new entrant.

A former #1, and member of the 25th Anniversary Team, Max Zaslofsky, moves up two spots to #2. Zaslofsky was one of the best players in the late 1940s.

At #3, is Larry Foust, who like Zaslofsky would need to enter via a Direct-Elect Veterans Committee. Rising from #8, Foust has his highest ranking yet, and he brings to the table eight All-Star selections from the 1950s.

Chauncey Billups returns to the top five, climbing two to #4. The former NBA Champion (and Finals MVP) with the Detroit Pistons went to five All-Stars and won World Championship Gold with the United States.

At #5 is Shawn Kemp, who has encountered some legal issues lately, moved up from #7. Kemp was a six-time All-Star, five of which were with the Seattle SuperSonics, and he was also a three-time Second Team All-NBA player. Like Billups, he won World Championship Gold while representing the U.S..

Three-time All-Star and four-time All-Defensive player, Buck Williams, moves from #9 to #6.

Previous Finalist, Kevin Johnson, shot up from #11 to #7. Johnson was a four-time Second Team All-NBA Selection.

Gus Williams had a nice gain from #13 to #8. Williams won an NBA Title with Seattle and was twice an All-Star.

Former Point Guard, Mark Price, enters the top ten at #9, three spots form his previous rank at #12. He was a four-time All-Star and four-time All-NBA Selection.

Rounding up the top ten is Marques Johnson, who also rose on the list, with his jump coming from #14. Johnson was a five-time All-Star, and a College Player of the Year at UCLA, where he won a National Championship.

Aside from Carter, there are only two new entrants on the list, which are:

Joakim Noah, a former Defensive Player of the Year and NCAA Champion with Florida, who debuts at #37.

The underrated and long-serving Tyson Chandler, makes his first appearance at #40.

You know what we want you to do!

Cast your votes, offer your opinions, and as always, we thank you for your support!

Hall of Fame related lists are at the forefront of what we do. Hell, it is in the name of our site; Notinhalloffame.com!

The problem (or actually our perpetual joy) is that we have to continuously revise lists, most of them annually.  With the ones in reference to the main Halls of Fame, we try to tackle the revisions immediately.  With that in mind, we are pleased to have our new Notinhalloffame.com Basketball list of those to consider for the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame.

Before we get into it, please note that this list only covers the male candidates.  We may look at doing a separate list for coaches, international, and women, but for now we will remain with this core list.

As always, the first thing we do is remove those who were chosen for the incoming class.  This involved the removal of our top three, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett, all of which were in their first year of eligibility.  We should note that while Rudy Tomjanavich was also chosen for Springfield, he did so as a Coach, and in the Basketball Hall, you can enter multiple times as a Coach and as a Player.

The second thing we do is input the new entries who are now eligible and are worthy of being ranked.  

The third is look at your comments and votes and alter accordingly.

The complete list can be found here, but below are the former players who now comprise our new top ten.

Paul Pierce debuts at #1, and is our highest ranked new entry.  Pierce was a ten-time All-Star, and was chosen for four All-NBA Teams (one Second Team and three Third Team).  Pierce was a teammate of this year’s inductee, Kevin Garnett, in Boston, and he was the Finals MVP in their Championship win in 2008. 

Chris Bosh moved from #4 to #2.  Bosh was openly upset when he was not included in this list of Finalists for the 2020 Hall of Fame Class, but we suspect this was to hold him back for a class with Pierce. The former Raptor and Heat player, was an 11-time All-Star and won two NBA Championships with Miami.

Chris Webber climbs back to #3 from #5.  Webber was the leader of the Michigan’s “Fab Five”, and was the NBA Rookie of the Year. C-Webb was a five-time All-Star, and was once a First Team All-NBA Selection, as well as a three-time Second Team All-NBA Selection.  Webber was at one time ranked number one on this list.

Ben Wallace moves up two spots to #4.  Wallace was a part of the Detroit Pistons 2004 NBA Championship, and he was a four-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year.  The four-time All-Star was a three-time Second Team All-NBA and a two-time Third Team All-NBA Selection.

Shawn Kemp rose three to #5.  The former Seattle SuperSonic went to six All-Star Games, and was chosen for three-time Second Team squads.

Max Zaslofsky also went up three spots from #9 to #6.  Zaslofsky was a four-time First Team All-NBA player in the 1940s and 1950s.

Mark Aguirre climbed to #7 from #10.  The former Naismith College Player of the Year, won two NBA Championships as a Detroit Piston, and he was also a three-time All-Star.

Tim Hardaway returns to the top ten, moving up to #8.  The former five-time All-Star was a star at Golden State, and he was also a First Team All-NBA player in 1997.

Lou Hudson shot up from #16 to #9.  Hudson was a six-time All-Star.

Bob Dandridge closes the top ten, and he rose from #13.  He was a four-time All-Star, and he won two NBA Titles, one with Milwaukee and one with Washington.

There are two new entries.

Deron Williams enters at #57 and Metta World Peace (the former Ron Artest) makes his list debut at #83.

At present, the list goes to 115.  In the future, the intent is to bring it to 150, where it will be capped at that number.

You know what we want you to do!

Take a look at the new list, and cast your votes and offer your opinions.  

As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com thank you for your support.

Yes, we know that this is taking a while!

As many of you know, we here at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the 50 of each major North American sports team.  That being said, we have existing Top 50 lists out and we always consistently look to update them when we can and based on necessity.  As such, we are very happy to present the first revision of our top 50 Oklahoma City Thunder of all-time.

As for all of our top 50 players in football we look at the following: 

1.  Advanced Statistics.

2. Traditional statistics and how they finished in the NBA.

3. Playoff accomplishments.

4. Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles not reflected in a stat sheet.

Please note that this is the first update since 2016, and it does not reflect the current season.  Please also note that the history of the Thunder includes that of the Seattle SuperSonics.

Remember, this is ONLY based on what a player does on that particular team and not what he accomplished elsewhere and also note that we have placed an increased importance on the first two categories, which has altered the rankings considerably.

This list is updated up until the end of the 2018-19 Season.

The complete list can be found herebut as always we announce our top five in this article.  They are:

1. Russell Westbrook

2. Gary Payton

3. Kevin Durant

4. Shawn Kemp

5. Jack Sikma

We have used a different algorithm from our initial list, and this has resulted in a few changes that are reflected on the entire list, and even in the top five.

Current Houston Rocket, Russell Westbrook, takes over at #1 from #3 three years ago. The last two seasons he had with OKC, put him over Durant and Payton.  Gary Payton dropped from #1 to #2 due to Westbrook’s ascension to the top. Kevin Durant, who almost made it to number, fell from #2 to #3.  With the new algorithm in use, Shawn Kemp and Jack Sikma reversed their rank at #4 and #5 respectively.

There were other significant changes.  We dropped the ball by not ranking Serge Ibaka.  That was a major oversight, and the Congolese Center enters at #11.  Steven Adams, who has been their Center for the last few seasons, debuts at #17.

As always, we thank you for your support.

Is this rank too low for the “Reign Man”

Shawn Kemp is correctly most identified as a member of the Seattle SuperSonics but he played three seasons with the Cleveland Cavaliers for three seasons where he put up some excellent numbers.

We have another major update here at Notinhalloffame.com as our Basketball list of those who should be considered for the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame has gone through a significant revision.

Last April during the Final Four, 4 of our top 10 were selected (Steve Nash #1, Jason Kidd #2, Ray Allen #3 and Grant Hill #5), as was another former player in our top 15 (Maurice Cheeks #15). With four leaving our top five, the peak of our list is being overhauled but it will feature three new entries in the top three who we think will make the 2019 Basketball Hall of Fame Class the most loaded ever as we think they are all a lock to get in.

Before we get to our revised Notinhalloffame.com Basketball list please note that we only rank male players at this time.

Our Notinhalloffame.com Basketball Top Ten is:

Tim Duncan makes his first and what we expect his last appearance on our list at the top spot. Duncan did it all in the NBA winning the MVP twice and the NBA Championship five times in a career spent entirely with the San Antonio Spurs. Duncan would go to 15 All Star Games, was chosen for 10 First Team All-NBA and 8 First Team All-Defensive rosters. He is also in the top ten in Rebounds, Defensive Rebounds, Blocks, Win Shares, VORP and Games Played not to mention being a consensus All-American from Wake Forest.

It takes a player like Tim Duncan to have a megastar like Kobe Bryant debut at #2. Bryant played his entire career with the Los Angeles Lakers and he is a five time NBA Champion and one time MVP. Bryant retired third all-time in Points. While we feel Duncan was the better player than Bryant there is no doubt that both are first ballot inductees. We would take Tim over Kobe but the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame won’t see it that way. Kobe is the bona fide headliner.

Kevin Garnett arrives in at #3. Amazingly despite being a former MVP himself, a Defensive Player of the Year, and a 15 time All Star he is still behind Duncan and Bryant. Garnett was a legend with the Minnesota Timberwolves but late in his career he led a group of veterans to a NBA Championship with the Boston Celtics. He is currently 2nd overall in Defensive Rebounds and 4th in VORP. This is quite the “big three” for the Class of 2019 right?

Chris Webber returns at #4. C-Webb was a Finalist last year but will face the same stiff competition in 2019. The former Rookie of the Year is a five time All Star.

Sidney Moncrief comes in at #5. The former two time NBA Defensive Player of the Year was named an All Star five times and was also a former SWC Player of the Year.

The #6 spot also holds the same as Jack Sikma returns to that slot. The big man from Illinois Wesleyan was a seven time All Star and a former NBA Champion with the Seattle Super Sonics.

Ben Wallace moved up from #8 to #7. Wallace was a four time All Star and a four time Defensive Player of the Year and was part of the shocking Detroit Pistons team that won the 2004 NBA Championship.

Shawn Kemp also moved up one spot to #8. Kemp was a six time All Star and three Second Team All-NBA Selection.

We go way back for our #9 selection, Max Zaslofsky who also went up one rank. Zaslofsky was an All Star in 1952 and was a First Team All BAA selection three times in the late 1940’s.

For the first time, Mark Aguirre is in our top ten. He moved up one spot from #11. The longtime Detroit Piston is a two time NBA Champion and three time All Star.

There is one more entry to our Notinhalloffame.com Basketball list as Elton Brand debuts at #50. Brand is a former ACC Player of the Year and two time All Star.

You know what we want you to do!

Take a look at our new list cast your votes, and offers us your opinions as they help us in future lists.

As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com thank you for your support and we will be bringing to you more lists and content in the future.

As always with us at Notinhalloffame.com it is always a continuing process!

When one Hall of Fame Class gets in, we need to look at updating our respective lists.  As such, we are proud to announce that we have updated our Notinhalloffame.com Basketball List.

The recent class only claimed two former players off of the ranking, Tracy McGrady (#2) and George McGinnis (#12) but there are quite a few former players who we feel are deserving of a rank and much like the other lists, we have plans to increase the number from the even 100 to 200.  For now, we now have a less than perfect number of 106, but that will only be a temporary number.

Let’s get to the new rankings shall we?

Although our #1 was not chosen, we have a new star at the top of our perch.  Five time First Team All NBA Selection Jason Kidd debuts at #1.  The current coach of the Milwaukee Bucks is a ten time All Star and is currently #2 all-time in Steals and Assists. 

Chris Webber was ranked #1 last year, and he drops to #2.  We have been long since championing Webber for the Hall, and while he did not get selected last year, he finally was named a Finalist for the first time, which at least gives us reason to be optimistic. 

At #3, we have another new entrant, Grant Hill.  A two time NCAA Champion at Duke, Hill was a major star in the NBA, tallying seven trips to the All Star Game, until severe injuries took him off of that level, though this is still a man who played 18 years in the NBA.

While there are many new entrants, only Jason Kidd and Grant Hill crack the top ten.

Seven Time Al-Star Jack Sikma remains in the #4 spot.  Sikma helped the Seattle SuperSonics win the NBA Championship.

Sidney Moncrief dropped two spots to #5.  While he dropped here (mostly due to the eligibility of Kidd and Hill) he is coming off being named a Finalist.

Former multi-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year Ben Wallace swapped places with former Seattle star, Shawn Kemp at #6 and #7 respectively. 

Max Zaslofsky remains at number 8.  Zaslofsky was a First Team All BAA/NBA Selection from the 1946-47 season to the 1949-50 season.

Two time NBA Champion with the Detroit Pistons, Mark Aguire tumbled from #5 to #9.  Aguire was also a three time All Star.

Tim Hardaway completes the top 10.  Hardaway, a five time All Star was a Finalist last year.

There are additional new entries to discuss.

The master of the technical foul, Rasheed Wallace enters at #22.  Wallace was a star for both Portland and Detroit, the latter of with he helped take to an NBA Championship.

Two time All Star Jerry Stackhouse debuts at #49 and bookending the #50 rank is new entry Marcus Camby.  Camby’s rank is a little interesting considering he was never an All Star, but he is a former two-time Defensive Player of the Year and also won the Naismith College Player of the Year when he was at UMass.

The other new entries are Richard Hamilton (#75) and Lamar Odom (#104).

You know what we want you to do!



The updated list can be found here and we encourage all of you to vote and state your opinions!
Always onward and upward for us here at Notinhalloffame.com!

We are ready to unveil a new Top 50, and again it comes from the hardwood.  It is the Top 50 of the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Originally, the Seattle SuperSonics, the franchise would win the NBA Championship in 1979, the year after they went to their first NBA Finals.  The Sonics would again go to the Finals in 1996, though would lose to the juggernaut that was the Michael Jordan led Chicago Bulls.

As much as the Seattle fans supported their team, a new ownership group from Oklahoma City purchased the team and brought the franchise to the state of Oklahoma, the first major franchise to arrive there. 

Now known as the Oklahoma City Thunder, “OKC” would go to the Finals, though they would fall short against the Miami Heat.

As the city of Seattle owns the rights to the Sonics name, a new team in the Emerald City would revert the history of this team in Seattle away from the Thunder, however as it stands now, this list begins from 1967, when Seattle first gained a team.

The entire list can be found here but for those who want a sneak peak, the top five are:

1. Gary Payton
2. Kevin Durant
3. Russell Westbrook
4. Jack Sikma
5. Shawn Kemp

This list takes into account traditional statistics, advanced metrics and playoff performance.

It is up to the end of the 2015-16 Season.

Up next will be another NBA team, with the Atlanta Hawks.



Dubbed the “Reign Man” by the Seattle faithful, Shawn Kemp was best known for his many kids with multiple women as he was for his on the court skill. 
We are thrilled here at Notinhalloffame.com to unveil our latest major update to the site.

Last month, the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame announced its latest class prompting us to revise our list for the upcoming year. 

Recapping, four men from our Basketball list advanced to Springfield and that included our top three (Shaquille O’Neal, Allen Iverson & Yao Ming) and Zelmo Beatty, who was ranked at #20 on our list from last year.  With those four out and with new entries eligible, the state of the list has changed.  Along with all of your votes and comments, here is the new top ten on the Notinhalloffame.com Basketball List.


#1. Chris Webber

Webber returns to our top spot, though he has never been named a Finalist.  This is likely due to his controversy at the University of Michigan, where he was banned from the program for years for accepting money from boosters resulting in the forfeiture of wins and Final Four appearance, though we believe his overall success in the game supersedes that.

#2. Sidney Moncreif

This is Moncreif’s highest rank and the two time Defensive Player of the Year has five post-season All-NBA Selections to his credit.

#3. Jack Sikma

Sikma climbs to the number three spot and is a seven time NBA All-Star. 

#4. Mark Aguirre

Three time All Star, and two time NBA Champion with the Detroit Pistons, Mark Aguirre also has reached his highest rank since we have created our Notinhalloffame.com Basketball List.

#5. Shawn Kemp

Shawn Kemp reaches the top five for the first time and is a six time NBA All-Star.

#6. Ben Wallace

This is the highest debut for the new list.  Ben Wallace is a four time Defensive Player of the Year and made five post season All-NBA Teams.  Wallace is also a NBA Champion in 2004 with the Detroit Pistons.

#7. Max Zaslofsky

Every year, another rise for four time First Team All-NBA Selection from the 1950’s, Max Zaslofsky.

#8. Tim Hardaway

Hardaway is a former Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame Finalist.  He is a five time NBA All-Star.

#9. Maurice Lucas

A former NBA Champion with the Portland Trail Blazers, Maurice Lucas made five All Star Teams.

#10. Kevin Johnson

Johnson cracks the top ten for the first time and is a three time All-Star.



While Ben Wallace is the only former player to debut in the top ten, there are three other additions to this year’s list.

#34. Gilbert Arenas

Arenas had a controversial career but he is a former three time Post Season All-Star and at one point in his career seemed like he was on a Hall of Fame path.



#64. Michael Redd

Redd had some good seasons with Milwaukee and is a former Third Team All-NBA Selection.

#76. Antoine Walker

A former Celtic, Walker was a star for a time but is more known for his financial hardships after his career ended.



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Check out the new rankings and entries and give us your comments and thoughts!







4. Shawn Kemp

Shawn Kemp was one of the most popular and productive players of the 1990s. He came straight out of high school as Seattle’s First Round with the body of a Greek God and was considered one of the best pure athletes in the NBA. Kemp struggled as a rookie, but the Power Forward averaged over 15 Points and 9 Rebounds over the next two years while adopting the nickname of the “Reign Man,” one of the best nicknames of the sport.

Along with Gary Payton, Kemp and the SuperSonics emerged as contenders.  Seattle won the Western Conference Finals, though they lost to Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls.  Though Kemp did not win a title with Seattle, from 1992-93 to 1996-97m he was one of the best players in the game.  In that five-year period, Kemp was a perennial All-Star, earned three Second Team All-NBAs and averaged well over a double-double with strong blocking numbers.   The Cleveland Cavaliers traded for Kemp in 1997, but before long, it was evident he was not the same “Reign Man.”

Kemp was still a very good player in his first two years with the Cavaliers, adding a sixth All-Star in 1997-98, and had a career-high 20.5 Points per Game the year after.  While he was still productive, his weight was becoming a problem, and as he got older, it became a bigger problem.  Kemp was traded to Portland, and was unable to average 10 Points per Game and was demoted to the bench.  He played two years there, then a final one in Orlando before he retored.

Kemp’s recent legal troubles involving a connection to a drive-by shooting won’t help his Hall of Fame cause, as did other past drug arrests, and his weight problems.  That should not negate what he did accomplish on the court, which was very impressive.