The Pro Football HOF snubs the Stabler family
Nov 05, 2016
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Recently, Seattle Seahawks Defensive Back, Richard Sherman discussed how ratings were down in the National Football League because the league wasn’t fun. Perhaps the Pro Football Hall of Fame has taken their cue.
Traditionally when players are inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame they receive an official Hall of Fame jacket and ring. When asked over Twitter when the late Ken Stabler’s family would be receiving their jacket and ring, Kendra Stabler Moyes (Ken’s daughter) stated that they did not receive one, and will not be in the future.
To make matters worse, when she asked if it could be purchased, the family was told by the Hall of Fame President, David Baker, a firm “No” with the reason being that they did not want families selling the items or fighting over them.
Pretty stupid rationale, wouldn’t you say?
There is no support for this decision, especially from the team that Stabler starred for years, the Oakland Raiders themselves.
Current Head Coach, Jack Del Rio succinctly stated on Twitter for the Hall to “Do the right thing”. Current Raiders owner, Mark Davis pointed out that he has his fathers (Al Davis) ring and that the families of Stabler, Junior Seau and Dick Stanfel should also.
Davis, in a phone interview with ESPN, stated that he learned of this situation earlier as he was intending to honor Stabler’s family with a halftime ceremony presenting the ring and jacket.
With the backlash that the Pro Football HOF is receiving, will they do the right thing as Del Rio says?
Let’s hope!
Traditionally when players are inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame they receive an official Hall of Fame jacket and ring. When asked over Twitter when the late Ken Stabler’s family would be receiving their jacket and ring, Kendra Stabler Moyes (Ken’s daughter) stated that they did not receive one, and will not be in the future.
To make matters worse, when she asked if it could be purchased, the family was told by the Hall of Fame President, David Baker, a firm “No” with the reason being that they did not want families selling the items or fighting over them.
Pretty stupid rationale, wouldn’t you say?
There is no support for this decision, especially from the team that Stabler starred for years, the Oakland Raiders themselves.
Current Head Coach, Jack Del Rio succinctly stated on Twitter for the Hall to “Do the right thing”. Current Raiders owner, Mark Davis pointed out that he has his fathers (Al Davis) ring and that the families of Stabler, Junior Seau and Dick Stanfel should also.
Davis, in a phone interview with ESPN, stated that he learned of this situation earlier as he was intending to honor Stabler’s family with a halftime ceremony presenting the ring and jacket.
With the backlash that the Pro Football HOF is receiving, will they do the right thing as Del Rio says?
Let’s hope!
A quick look at the Pro Football HOF ceremony
Aug 06, 2016
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We love this weekend here at Notinhalloffame.com!
Today is the official induction of the 2016 Pro Football Hall of Fame Class leading to tomorrow’s first pre-season game, the Hall of Fame Game in Canton, Ohio.
This year’s class sees eight new busts to be included into the Hall, which is quickly becoming the go-to Hall of Fame for all American professional sports.
Former Wide Receiver Marvin Harrison was inducted first by Colts’ owner, Jim Irsay. Harrison enters on his third ballot, though many (including us) have stated that he should have been chosen in his first year of eligibility. Harrison caught 1,102 passes for 14,580 Yards and 128 Touchdowns; all of which place him in the top ten all-time.
He is also a three time Pro Bowl Selection and in 2002 he set the single season record for Receptions (143), which still stands.
In his speech, Harrison thanks the Colts fans, calling them the best in the world and notably thanked Quarterback, Peyton Manning and Genera Manager, Bill Polian.
Fittingly, Harrison’s longtime teammate, Offensive Lineman, Orlando Pace was enshrined next by his son, Justin. Pace anchored the line that protected “The Greatest Show on Turf” and was a huge part of their win in Super Bowl XXXVI. Pace went to seven straight Pro Bowls.
Up next, Marv Levy had the pleasure of inducting Senior Inductee and five time Pro Bowler, Dick Stanfel. The Offensive Guard was a two time NFL Champion and has a Super Bowl Ring with the Chicago Bears as he was their Offensive Line Coach during the “Super Bowl Shuffle” run. This is a posthumous induction as Stanfel passed away last year.
Tony Dungy was inducted next by his former Pittsburgh Steelers teammate, Donnie Shell. The current Sunday Night Football analyst was an NFL Coach for 13 seasons with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Indianapolis Colts. It was with the latter where he won the Super Bowl and made history as the first African-American Head Coach in NFL history.
Kevin Greene was then up and was inducted by his longtime coach, Dom Capers. Greene was a five time Pro Bowler and recorded a whopping 160 Quarterback Sacks, making him third all-time.
The second of two Senior and posthumous inductees, Quarterback, Ken Stabler was inducted next by his former Head Coach, John Madden. “The Snake” helmed Oakland to four straight AFC Title Games and was the winning Quarterback in Super Bowl XI. Stabler died last year and many have felt that this was a snub for far too long and is something that he should have lived to see.
His daughter, Lisa, inducted former San Francisco 49ers owner, Eddie DeBartolo Jr. Under DeBartolo Jr.’s watch, the Niners won five Super Bowls. How badly do San Francisco fans want him still running the team!
The unquestionable headliner was up last in Quarterback, Brett Farve, who was inducted by his wife Deanna. Favre was a Pro Bowler in 11 of his 16 seasons and too Green Bay to a win in Super Bowl XXXI. In a sport known for grit and determination, Favre took those attributes to another level. Constantly playing through pain and never throwing a ball that he thought couldn’t be caught, Favre set a myriad of records and gave us a litany of memories.
How perfect was it when Favre said he was going to wing his speech and than insinuated that he would ask Packers’ coach, Mike McCarthy (during the speech that he winged) if he could throw the first series in tomorrow’s Hall of Fame Game?
Typical Favre, and we hope he never changes!
We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to congratulate this latest group of Hall of Famers and encourage you all to tell us who should get in next.
Our 2017 List is here, and ready for your votes and opinions!
Today is the official induction of the 2016 Pro Football Hall of Fame Class leading to tomorrow’s first pre-season game, the Hall of Fame Game in Canton, Ohio.
This year’s class sees eight new busts to be included into the Hall, which is quickly becoming the go-to Hall of Fame for all American professional sports.
Former Wide Receiver Marvin Harrison was inducted first by Colts’ owner, Jim Irsay. Harrison enters on his third ballot, though many (including us) have stated that he should have been chosen in his first year of eligibility. Harrison caught 1,102 passes for 14,580 Yards and 128 Touchdowns; all of which place him in the top ten all-time.
He is also a three time Pro Bowl Selection and in 2002 he set the single season record for Receptions (143), which still stands.
In his speech, Harrison thanks the Colts fans, calling them the best in the world and notably thanked Quarterback, Peyton Manning and Genera Manager, Bill Polian.
Fittingly, Harrison’s longtime teammate, Offensive Lineman, Orlando Pace was enshrined next by his son, Justin. Pace anchored the line that protected “The Greatest Show on Turf” and was a huge part of their win in Super Bowl XXXVI. Pace went to seven straight Pro Bowls.
Up next, Marv Levy had the pleasure of inducting Senior Inductee and five time Pro Bowler, Dick Stanfel. The Offensive Guard was a two time NFL Champion and has a Super Bowl Ring with the Chicago Bears as he was their Offensive Line Coach during the “Super Bowl Shuffle” run. This is a posthumous induction as Stanfel passed away last year.
Tony Dungy was inducted next by his former Pittsburgh Steelers teammate, Donnie Shell. The current Sunday Night Football analyst was an NFL Coach for 13 seasons with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Indianapolis Colts. It was with the latter where he won the Super Bowl and made history as the first African-American Head Coach in NFL history.
Kevin Greene was then up and was inducted by his longtime coach, Dom Capers. Greene was a five time Pro Bowler and recorded a whopping 160 Quarterback Sacks, making him third all-time.
The second of two Senior and posthumous inductees, Quarterback, Ken Stabler was inducted next by his former Head Coach, John Madden. “The Snake” helmed Oakland to four straight AFC Title Games and was the winning Quarterback in Super Bowl XI. Stabler died last year and many have felt that this was a snub for far too long and is something that he should have lived to see.
His daughter, Lisa, inducted former San Francisco 49ers owner, Eddie DeBartolo Jr. Under DeBartolo Jr.’s watch, the Niners won five Super Bowls. How badly do San Francisco fans want him still running the team!
The unquestionable headliner was up last in Quarterback, Brett Farve, who was inducted by his wife Deanna. Favre was a Pro Bowler in 11 of his 16 seasons and too Green Bay to a win in Super Bowl XXXI. In a sport known for grit and determination, Favre took those attributes to another level. Constantly playing through pain and never throwing a ball that he thought couldn’t be caught, Favre set a myriad of records and gave us a litany of memories.
How perfect was it when Favre said he was going to wing his speech and than insinuated that he would ask Packers’ coach, Mike McCarthy (during the speech that he winged) if he could throw the first series in tomorrow’s Hall of Fame Game?
Typical Favre, and we hope he never changes!
We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to congratulate this latest group of Hall of Famers and encourage you all to tell us who should get in next.
Our 2017 List is here, and ready for your votes and opinions!
A look at Ken Stabler's PFHOF induction
Mar 01, 2016
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Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot.
Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same. We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same. We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
Brett Favre, Marvin Harrison headline the newest Football Hall of Fame Class
Feb 06, 2016
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The Super Bowl is tomorrow and for Hall of Fame purposes this means one thing to us. The Pro Football Hall of Fame has announced the latest class to their prestigious institution.
As expected first year eligible Quarterback, Brett Favre, has been chosen. A Super Bowl Champion with the Green Bay Packers, Favre set numerous passing records and for years was the most recognizable player in the NFL. Favre is a three time league MVP.
The Offensive Line has seen another one of their fraternity chosen with former St. Louis Ram, Orlando Pace. Pace is also a Super Bowl Champion and was chosen for seven consecutive Pro Bowls.
The Indianapolis Colts will be well represented. Wide Receiver, Marvin Harrison, who entered his third year of eligibility, has been chosen. Harrison was a thirteen year veteran, all with Indianapolis. He is an eight time Pro Bowl Selection and a Super Bowl Champion with over 13,000 Yards Receiving.
Harrison’s Super Bowl winning coach, Tony Dungy has also been chosen. Dungy has a coaching record of 139 and 69 and also has a Super Bowl Ring as a Defensive Back with the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 1970’s. He is currently a popular studio announcer for NBC’s National Football League Sunday Night telecasts.
Kevin Greene, one of the most feared pass rushers of all time, has also been chosen. Greene finished his career with 160 Sacks, a number that puts him third all-time in that category.
Both Senior Nominees, Quarterback, Ken Stabler and Offensive Guard, Dick Stanfel have also been chosen.
The home of Super Bowl 50, San Francisco, will see their popular former owner, Edward DeBartolo Jr. also inducted. DeBartolo Jr. owned the San Francisco 49ers for twenty-three seasons with the team capturing five Super Bowl during that tenure.
Morten Andersen, Steve Atwater, Don Coryell, Terrell Davis, Alan Faneca, Joe Jacoby, John Lynch, Edgerrin James, Terrell Owens and Kurt Warner were not chosen this year.
We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to congratulate this latest class, and we will begin work immediately on the revision of our Football List. Look for that next month!
As expected first year eligible Quarterback, Brett Favre, has been chosen. A Super Bowl Champion with the Green Bay Packers, Favre set numerous passing records and for years was the most recognizable player in the NFL. Favre is a three time league MVP.
The Offensive Line has seen another one of their fraternity chosen with former St. Louis Ram, Orlando Pace. Pace is also a Super Bowl Champion and was chosen for seven consecutive Pro Bowls.
The Indianapolis Colts will be well represented. Wide Receiver, Marvin Harrison, who entered his third year of eligibility, has been chosen. Harrison was a thirteen year veteran, all with Indianapolis. He is an eight time Pro Bowl Selection and a Super Bowl Champion with over 13,000 Yards Receiving.
Harrison’s Super Bowl winning coach, Tony Dungy has also been chosen. Dungy has a coaching record of 139 and 69 and also has a Super Bowl Ring as a Defensive Back with the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 1970’s. He is currently a popular studio announcer for NBC’s National Football League Sunday Night telecasts.
Kevin Greene, one of the most feared pass rushers of all time, has also been chosen. Greene finished his career with 160 Sacks, a number that puts him third all-time in that category.
Both Senior Nominees, Quarterback, Ken Stabler and Offensive Guard, Dick Stanfel have also been chosen.
The home of Super Bowl 50, San Francisco, will see their popular former owner, Edward DeBartolo Jr. also inducted. DeBartolo Jr. owned the San Francisco 49ers for twenty-three seasons with the team capturing five Super Bowl during that tenure.
Morten Andersen, Steve Atwater, Don Coryell, Terrell Davis, Alan Faneca, Joe Jacoby, John Lynch, Edgerrin James, Terrell Owens and Kurt Warner were not chosen this year.
We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to congratulate this latest class, and we will begin work immediately on the revision of our Football List. Look for that next month!
The 2016 Pro Football HOF Finalists are out
Jan 07, 2016
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“Tis the season to talk about Hall of Fames isn’t it?
The Pro Football Hall of Fame has announced their Finalists, and there is no major surprise, which is usually the norm.
The headliner for most people (and for us) is former Quarterback, Brett Favre who two months ago had his number retired by the Green Bay Packers. Favre is entering his first year of eligibility and is ranked #1 by us.
Favre is not the only first year eligible player to make the list of Finalists as Wide Receiver, Terrell Owens and Offensive Guard, Alan Faneca have also made the cut. They are ranked and #7 and #5 respectively on our Notinhalloffame football list.
The remaining Finalists (with their Notinhalloffame rank in parenthesis) are Steve Atwater (#19), Don Coryell, Terrell Davis (#21), Tony Dungy, Kevin Greene (#37), Marvin Harrison (#3), Joe Jacoby (#62), Edgerrin James (#17), John Lynch (#57), Orlando Pace (#15) and Kurt Warner (#28).
This group joins the automatic Senior Finalists, Ken Stabler (#6) and Dick Stanfel (#30), along with Contributing Finalist, Eddie DeBartolo Jr.
To enter the Pro Football Hall of Fame must receive 80 percent of the votes. A maximum of eight inductees can be chosen per year.
Like the Baseball Hall of Fame, We will be debating each Pro Football Finalist.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame has announced their Finalists, and there is no major surprise, which is usually the norm.
The headliner for most people (and for us) is former Quarterback, Brett Favre who two months ago had his number retired by the Green Bay Packers. Favre is entering his first year of eligibility and is ranked #1 by us.
Favre is not the only first year eligible player to make the list of Finalists as Wide Receiver, Terrell Owens and Offensive Guard, Alan Faneca have also made the cut. They are ranked and #7 and #5 respectively on our Notinhalloffame football list.
The remaining Finalists (with their Notinhalloffame rank in parenthesis) are Steve Atwater (#19), Don Coryell, Terrell Davis (#21), Tony Dungy, Kevin Greene (#37), Marvin Harrison (#3), Joe Jacoby (#62), Edgerrin James (#17), John Lynch (#57), Orlando Pace (#15) and Kurt Warner (#28).
This group joins the automatic Senior Finalists, Ken Stabler (#6) and Dick Stanfel (#30), along with Contributing Finalist, Eddie DeBartolo Jr.
To enter the Pro Football Hall of Fame must receive 80 percent of the votes. A maximum of eight inductees can be chosen per year.
Like the Baseball Hall of Fame, We will be debating each Pro Football Finalist.
Ken Stabler and Dick Stanfel named 2016 Senior Nominees for the PFHOF
Aug 20, 2015
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Only a couple of weeks ago, the Football Hall of Fame officially inducted last year’s Senior Nominee, Mick Tingelhoff. This year, the Hall returns to two Senior Nominees, and while we are upset that former Green Bay Packer, Jerry Kramer is not one of them, we can’t say that we have a lot of issues with the two they did select.
Former Oakland Raiders Quarterback, Ken Stabler, who died earlier this year has been named as a Senior Finalist. “The Snake” had been a popular choice for many in terms of long time omissions for the Hall, and was himself a Finalist three times (1990, 1991 & 1993). Stabler is ranked at #6 on the Notinhalloffame.com Football countdown for 2016.
The other Senior Nominee is Dick Stanfel, who also died this year. The Offensive Lineman split his playing career in the 1950’s with the Detroit Lions and Washington Redskins and was named a First Team All Pro five times. Stanfel would go on to have a successful offensive line coaching career, most notably earning a Super Bowl Ring with the Chicago Bears in 1986. He is ranked at #30 on the Notinhalloffame.com Football countdown for 2016.
It should be noted that roughly two thirds of Senior Nominees make the Pro Football Hall of Fame and that the Senior Nominees automatically are Finalists for this year’s Hall of Fame.
We here at Notinhalloffame.com only wish that both Stanfel and Stabler were still alive to enjoy this day.
Former Oakland Raiders Quarterback, Ken Stabler, who died earlier this year has been named as a Senior Finalist. “The Snake” had been a popular choice for many in terms of long time omissions for the Hall, and was himself a Finalist three times (1990, 1991 & 1993). Stabler is ranked at #6 on the Notinhalloffame.com Football countdown for 2016.
The other Senior Nominee is Dick Stanfel, who also died this year. The Offensive Lineman split his playing career in the 1950’s with the Detroit Lions and Washington Redskins and was named a First Team All Pro five times. Stanfel would go on to have a successful offensive line coaching career, most notably earning a Super Bowl Ring with the Chicago Bears in 1986. He is ranked at #30 on the Notinhalloffame.com Football countdown for 2016.
It should be noted that roughly two thirds of Senior Nominees make the Pro Football Hall of Fame and that the Senior Nominees automatically are Finalists for this year’s Hall of Fame.
We here at Notinhalloffame.com only wish that both Stanfel and Stabler were still alive to enjoy this day.