Yes, we know that this is taking a while!

As many of you know, we at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the top 50 of each major North American sports team. That being said, we have existing Top 50 lists and consistently look to update them when necessary and based on necessity. As such, we are delighted to present our post-2023 revision of our top 50 Green Bay Packers.

As for all of our top 50 players in football, we look at the following:

1.  Advanced Statistics.

2.  Traditional statistics and how they finished in the National Football League.

3.  Playoff accomplishments.

4.  Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles that are not reflected in a stat sheet.

Last year, the Packers returned to the playoffs but were a first-round exit.  Despite the success of the 2023 Season, the long tenure of the Packers did not give us a new entrant, though two players came close to joining the Top 50.  As such, there were no changes, but we always acknowledge that we looked at the previous year.

As always, we present our top five, which (obviously) saw no changes:

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Brett Favre
3. Don Hutson
4. Forrest Gregg
5. Bart Starr

You can find the entire list here.

We thank you for your continued support of our lists on Notinhalloffame.com.

1951 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project Class.

Here we are!  Again!!

If you have been following our Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, you know that we have asked the rhetorical question…what if the PFHOF began in January of 1946?

After soliciting and obtaining a passionate group of football fans and historians, we sent out a ballot for a Preliminary Vote, which we asked each voter to give us 25 names as their semi-finalists, and 5 in the Senior Pool. Following that, we asked the group to vote for their 15 Finalists in the Modern Era, and 3 in the Senior Category. The final stage was to vote for their five Modern Era inductee, one Senior inductee and one Coaches/Contributor inductee.

This is the result of the sixth official class;

Below, are the final results of this project based on 30 votes:

This is for the “Modern Era”

*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1951:

Player	Year of Eligibility	Vote Total
Don Hutson E-DB-DE	1	28
Mel Hein C-LB	1	23
Bill Hewitt E-DE	3	15
Walt Kiesling G-T	8	14
Ray Flaherty E-DE	11	11
Dutch Sternaman HB-QB-FB	19	12
Ox Emerson G-C	8	11
Arnie Herber TB-HB-DB-QB-BB	1	9
Tuffy Leemans FB-TB-DB-QB	3	7
George Musso G-T	2	6
Swede Youngstrom G-T-E-C	19	5
Jimmy Conzelman HB-TB-BB-E	17	4
Turk Edwards T	6	3
Red Badgro E-DE	10	2
Beattie Feathers HB-WB	6	2
Cecil Isbel TB-HB	4	1

This is for the “Senior Era”

As none of the Senior Candidates obtained 50 percent of the vote, no Senior Candidate was chosen.  This is the second year where this rule was instituted.  Please note that voters could also opt out of this vote, as per the request of members of the voting body.

Blondy Wallace	6	10
Cub Buck	1	7
Hunk Anderson	1	6

This is for the Coaches/Contributors

*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1951:

Joseph Carr	2	15
Ralph Hay	2	11
Jimmy Conzelman	2	4

About the 1951 Inductees:

Don Hutson E-DB-DE, GNB 1935-45: Inducted in 1951 on his 1^st Ballot.  Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963.

An All-American and NCAA Champion at Alabama, Don Hutson became Football’s first “Super End”.  Hutson was arguably the game’s first real Receiver, originating passing routes and combining his unique skills and athleticism to become a legend.  Hutson led the league in Receptions and Receiving Touchdowns eight times, Receiving Yards seven times was a three-time NFL Champion with Green Bay, and was an eight-time First Team All-Pro.  He would also be named the league MVP twice.  When he retired, he was 200 higher than anyone else in Receptions.  As this was the 60-minute era, Hutson played on defense where he recorded 30 Interceptions, making one of the better Defensive Backs of his era.  How could he not enter on the first ballot?

Mel Hein C-LB, NYG 1931-45: Inducted in 1951 on his 1^st Ballot. Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963.

Mel Hein was one of the first great players from Washington State, and it was the New York Giants who were able to sign him in 1931.  This was the team he stayed with for his entire career, which ended in 1945.  Hein led the New York Giants to two NFL Championships, and the two-way player (Center and Linebacker) never missed a game.  Hein was an All-Pro in eight consecutive years and was named the league MVP in 1938, and he joins Hutson as a first ballot inductee.

Bill Hewitt E-DE, CHI 1932-36, PHI 1937-49 & 1943: Inducted in 1951 on his 3^rd Ballot.  Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1981.

Bill Hewitt might have been best known for his refusal to wear a helmet, a stance he held until it was league-mandated, but this tough-as-nails player was a dominant two-way end and one of the top football players of the 1930s.

Hewitt played for the Chicago Bears from 1932 to 1936, propelling them to two NFL Championships.  A very good player on offense (he led the NFL in Touchdown Receptions in 1935), he was positively devastating on defense.  Known as the “Offside Kid” for his penchant for jumping the snap, Hewitt has blistering speed for his day and was often the best defensive player on the field. 

He finished his career with the Philadelphia Eagles, playing until 1939, save for a brief comeback when the team was shorthanded in 1943 due to World War II.

Walt Kiesling G-T, DUL 1926-37, POT 1928, CRD 1929-33, 1934 CHI, GNB 1935-36. PIT 1937-38: Inducted in 1951 on his 6^th Ballot (technically his 8^th year of eligibility). Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1966.

A large man for his time, Walt Kiesling was one of the top linemen of the 1920s, doing the grunt work that opened holes on offense and closed them on defense.  Kiesling played for multiple teams, most notably for the Chicago Bears in 1934, who were undefeated, and the 1936 NFL Championship Green Bay Packers.

Ray Flaherty E, NYY 1937-38, NYG 1927-35: Inducted in 1951 on his 6^th Ballot (technically his 11^th year of eligibility). Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1976 as a Coach.

A seven-year veteran player at End for New York (both the Yankees and Giants), Flaherty signed on with the Boston Redskins as their Head Coach in 1936.  The team relocated to Washington the following year, and the Redskins won the NFL Championship, and did so again in 1942.  An innovator of offense, Flaherty is credited with inventing the screen pass among other schemes.  Despite that coaching prowess, he enters the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project as a player, where he was a three-time First Team All-Pro, won a Receiving Title and an NFL Championship.

Joe Carr: Inducted in 1951 on the 2^nd Coaches/Contributor Ballot. Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963.

Joe Carr is responsible for much of the structure that exists in the National Football League, and he did it simply by learning and executing what worked in Major League Baseball.  A newspaper man from Columbus, Carr revived the Columbus Panhandles Football Team in 1907.  The Panhandles would be a charter member of the NFL, and Carr, due to his vision, became the league’s first President; a position he held until his death in 1939.  Carr brought structure to the NFL, organizing how college players could migrate to the NFL, and his no-nonsense approach might have been a hardline one, but without it, the existence of the league could have been in doubt.

1951 SEMI-FINAL RESULTS:

Thank you for all of you who have participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, and if you are unaware of what that is, simply, we acted as if the PFHOF had their first class in January of 1946?

We have completed the first two years, where a Preliminary, Semi-Final and Final vote for the 1946 Class, which inducted two full classes

For “1950” a Preliminary Vote with 128 players whose playing career ended by 1943. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.

Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, with the top 25 vote getters named as Semi-Finalists.

A week later, the voters were asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next week, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.

30 Votes took place

This is for the “Modern Era”

Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:

Player	Year of Eligibility	Vote Total
Don Hutson E-DE-DET	1	29
Walt Kiesling G-T	8	25
Tuffy Leemans FB-TB-DB-QB	3	25
Arnie Herber TB-HB-DB-QB	1	25
Mel Hein C-LB	1	24
Ray Flaherty E-DE	11	24
Ox Emerson G-C	8	22
Cecil Isbell TB-HB	4	22
Bill Hewitt E-DE	3	21
George Musso G-T	2	20
Red Badgro E-DE	10	19
Jimmy Conzelman HB-TB-BB-E	17	17
Dutch Sternaman HB-QB-FB	19	16
Turk Edwards T	6	16
Swede Youngstrom G-T-E-C	19	15
Beattie Feathers HB-WB	6	15
Steve Owen T-G	14	16
Pete Stinchcomb HB	20	11
Al Nesser G-R-C	15	10
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB	1	9
Joey Sternaman QB-BB	16	8
Whizzer White TB-HB	5	8
Tony Latone B	16	7
Gus Sonnenberg T-FB-TB	16	6
Lou Smyth B	20	5
Doc Alexander C-T-G-E	19	4

This is for the “Senior Era”

*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:

Blondy Wallace	6	24
Hunk Anderson	1	23
Cub Buck	1	23
Sol Butler	6	20
Henry McDonald	6	20

This is for the Coaches/Contributors

*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:

Joseph Carr	2	25
Ralph Hay	2	24
Jimmy Conzelman	2	16
Charles Bidwell	2	15
Elmer Layden	2	10

Next Saturday, we will be posting the results of the 1952 Class of the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.

Thank you to all who contributed, and if you want to be a part of this project, please let us know!

1951 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:

Thank you for all of you who have participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, and if you are unaware of what that is, simply, we acted as if the PFHOF had their first class in January of 1946?

We have completed the first two years, where a Preliminary, Semi-Final and Final vote for the 1946 Class, which inducted two full classes

For “1951” a Preliminary Vote with 130 players whose playing career ended by 1945. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.

Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, with the top 25 vote getters named as Semi-Finalists.

A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.

30 Votes took place

This is for the “Modern Era”

Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:

Player	Year of Eligibility	Vote Total
Don Hutson E-DE-DB	1	28
Jimmy Conzelman HB-TB-BB-E	17	25
Ray Flaherty E-DE	11	25
Walt Kiesling G-T	8	26
Swede Youngstrom G-T-E-C	19	24
Ox Emerson G-C	8	24
Arnie Herber TB-HB-DB-QB-BB	1	24
Mel Hein C-LB	1	24
Dutch Sternaman HB-QB-FB	19	23
Beattie Feathers HB-WB	6	22
George Musso G-T	2	22
Tuffy Leemans FB-TB-DB-QB	3	21
Pete Stinchcomb	20	20
Turk Edwards T	6	20
Red Badgro E-DE	10	19
Cecil Isbell TB-HB	4	19
Doc Alexander C-T-G-E	19	18
Steve Owen T-G	13	18
Bill Hewitt E-DE	3	15
Tony Latone B	16	12
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB	1	12
Al Nesser G-E-C	15	9
Whizzer White TB-HB	5	9
Lou Smyth B	20	8
Gus Sonnenberg T-FB-TB	16	8
Joey Sternaman QB-BB	16	8
Wildcat Wilson TB	17	7
Wayne Millner E-DE	1	7
Bob Koehler FB	20	5
Russ Hathaway T-G	19	5
Duke Osborne G-C	17	5
Ray Kemp T	13	5
Willis Brennan G-T	19	4
Tex Grigg B	19	4
Fred Gillies T	18	4
Ben Jones FB-BB-WB	18	4
Jim McMillen G	18	4
Clyde Smith C	18	4
Jug Earp C-T-G	14	4
Luke Johnsos E	10	4
Joe Kopcha G	10	4
Jack Manders	6	4
Al Blozis T	2	4
Dinger Doane FB	19	3
Tex Hamer B	19	3
Herb Stein C-G	18	3
Red Dunn BB-TB	15	3
Doc Elliott B	15	3
Bill Owen T-G	10	3
Glenn Presnell T-B	10	3
Keith Molesworth HB-QB	9	3
George Christensen T-G	8	3
Potsy Jones G	7	3
Ace Gutkowski FB-TB	7	3
Eggs Manske E	6	3
Gaynell Tinsley E	6	3
Bub Weller T-E	18	2
Tillie Voss E-T	16	2
Bull Behman T-E	15	2
Rudy Comstrock G-T	13	2
Joe Lillard HB	13	2
Jack McBride FB	12	2
Nate Barragar C-G	11	2
Bo Molenda FB-HB-BB	11	2
Stumpy Thomason WB-TB-BB-HB	10	2
Carl Brumbaugh B	8	2
Swede Hanson B	8	2
Ozzie Simmons HB	7	2
Ralph Kerchaval WB	6	2
George Svendesn C	5	2
Joe Carter E	1	2
Pete Tinsley G	1	2
Duke Hanny E-T-G-FB	16	1
Two-Bits Honan B	16	1
Curly Oden BB	14	1
Jack Spellman T-B	14	1
Chuck Kassel E	13	1
Hap Moran B	13	1
Tom Nash	12	1
Doug Wycoff B	12	1
Lon Evans G-T	9	1
Len Grant T	9	1
Father Lumpkin BB	9	1
Ernie Caddell WB-TB-BB-FB	8	1
Ookie Miller C-G-LB	8	1
Bernie Masterson QB	6	1
Lloyd Cardwell WR-DB-FB	3	1
Dick Farman G	3	1
Bull Karcis FB-BB-HB	3	1
Ray Nolting HB	3	1
Conway Baker G-T	1	1
Hec Garvey G-E-T-C	15	0
Jim Laird B-G-T	15	0
Dick O'Donnell E	15	0
Frank Racis G-T-E	14	0
Don Murry T-E-G	14	0
Milt Rehnquist G-C-T	14	0
Al Graham G	13	0
Dick Stahlman T-G	13	0
Les Caywood G-T	13	0
Butch Gibson G-T	13	0
Bill Senn B	12	0
George Kenneally E	11	0
Zuck Carlson G-T-C-LB	10	0
Bill Morgan T	10	0
Bert Pearson	10	0
Clare Randolph C	10	0
Al Rose E	10	0
Harry Ebding E	9	0
Buster Mitchell E-T	9	0
Lou Gordon T-G-E	8	0
Bill Karr E	8	0
Joe Zeller G-E	8	0
Bree Cuppoletti G	7	0
Kink Richards B	7	0
Bill Smith E	7	0
Ernie Smith T	7	0
Johnny Dell Isola G	6	0
Milt Gantenbein E	6	0
Jack Johnson T	6	0
Jim Barber T	5	0
Frank Bausch C	5	0
Tony Blazine T	5	0
Ed Danowski B	4	0
Johnny Drake B	4	0
Armand Niccolai T-G	4	0
Steve Slivinski G-LB	3	0
Clyde Shugart G	2	0
Gene Ronzani T	1	0
Ade Schwammel E	1	0

This is for the “Senior Era”

*Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:

Blondy Wallace	6	20
Hunk Anderson	1	16
Henry McDonald	6	13
Cub Buck	1	12
Sol Butler	6	11
Steamer Horning	3	10
Gull Falcon	6	9
Rip King	1	7
Herman Kerchoff	6	6
Bob Shiring	6	5
Harry Robb	3	4
Tam Rose	6	1

This is for the Coaches/Contributors

*Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:

Charles Bidwell	2	23
Joseph Carr	2	23
Jimmy Conzelman	2	23
Ralph Hay	2	22
Elmer Layden	2	12
Carl Strock	2	7
LeRoy Andrews	2	6
George Clark	2	6
Christopher O’Brien	2	5
Dick Rauch	2	5
Art Rooney	2	5
Cooney Checkeye	2	4
Tommy Hughitt	2	2
Frank Nied	2	2

Next Saturday, we will be posting the results of the 1951 Semi-Finalists of the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.

Thank you to all who contributed, and if you want to be a part of this project, please let us know!

Yes, we know that this is taking a while!

As many of you know, we here at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the 50 of each major North American sports team. That being said, we have existing Top 50 lists out and we always consistently look to update them when we can and based on necessity. As such, we are very happy to present our post 2022 revision of our top 50 Green Bay Packers.

As for all of our top 50 players in football we look at the following:

1. Advanced Statistics.

2. Traditional statistics and how they finished in the National Football League.

3. Playoff accomplishments.

4. Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles not reflected in a stat sheet.

Last year, the Packers had a disappointing season, with a Quarterback who seemed to be the source of conjecture. Saying that, the numbers for said pivot kept compiling and we had a huge decision to make…and we did.

As always, we present our top five, which had a major change at the top.

1. Aaron Rodgers

2. Brett Favre

3. Don Hutson

4. Forrest Gregg

5. Bart Starr

You can find the entire list here.

Rodgers supplanted Favre at the top spot, and the overall statistical difference (even with era comparison) proved to big to ignore. The chasm will not grow, as Rodgers begins 2023 with the New York Jets, and Green Bay now enters the Jordan Love period).

Offensive Lineman, David Bakhtiari, climbs four rungs to #28.

We welcome your input and comments and as always, we thank you for your support.

Yes, we know that this is taking a while!

As many of you know, we here at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the 50 of each major North American sports team.  That being said, we have existing Top 50 lists out and we always consistently look to update them when we can and based on necessity. As such, we are very happy to present our pre-2021 revision of our top 50 Green Bay Packers of all-time.

As for all of our top 50 players in football we look at the following: 

1.  Advanced Statistics.

2. Traditional statistics and how they finished in the NFL. 

3. Playoff accomplishments.

4. Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles not reflected in a stat sheet.

There are no new additions in the Top 50, but two elevations, from current Packers.  One of which, effects our top five.

As always, we present our top five.  They are:

1. Brett Favre

2. Don Hutson

3. Aaron Rodgers

4. Forrest Gregg

5. Bart Starr

You can find the entire list here.

Rodgers, the reigning MVP, moved up from #6.  

The other jump is Offensive Lineman, David Bakhtiari climbed six spots to #30.  He was a First Team All-Pro this year, despite only playing in 12 Games.

We welcome your input and commentsand as always, we thank you for your support.

Inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963, Don Hutson was a three NFL Champion who was a member of both the NFL 50th and 75th Anniversary Team.  Hutson, who was also a two time National Football League MVP also is thought of as the first true Wide Receiver in the game of Football.  As was expected in the era in which he played, Hutson was also involved in defense and special teams, and he was quite competent as their Place Kicker.