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Kirk Buchner and Evan Nolan discuss the latest Hall of Fame related news. They look at the 2023 R&B HOF Class, and break down what is working and what isn't. They pay tribute to four HOFers, #JimBrown, #TinaTurner, #DoyleBrunson & #SuperstarBillyGraham. All this, and much more

Two-time Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee, Tina Turner, has passed away. She was 83 years old.

Born Anna Mae Bullock in Tennessee, Turner joined Ike Turner’s Kins of Rhythm in 1957, and would soon be in a relationship with Ike, who she would marry. Tina would soon front the group, which would be renamed simply as Ike & Tina, and they had multiple hits while growing in international prominence. Individually, Tina would have solo success while part of the group.

Behind the scenes, the Turner marriage was tumultuous, with Ike abusing Tina. She left Ike in 1976, and was reduced to the nostalgia circuit until 1984, when her comeback album, “Private Dancer”, brought her the biggest success of her career, yielding her biggest hit, “What’s Love Got to Do with It”. Turner continued to generate hits throughout the 1980s, and was a huge concert draw until her retirement in 2009.

There will never be another one like her.

We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to offer our condolences to the fans, friends and family of Tina Turner.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has announced the presenters and performers for the impending Class of 2021 Ceremony and as expected, it will be a loaded affair.

Taking place on October 30, we know the following people will be involved.

Tina Turner will be inducted by Angela Bassett, who portrayed her in the 1993 biopic, “What’s Love Got to Do With It” with performances by Bryan Adams, Christina Aguilera, H.E.R. and Mickey Guyton.

Carole King will be inducted by Taylor Swift, who will also be performing with King and Jennifer Hudson.

The Go-Go’s will be inducted by Drew Barrymore.

The Foo Fighters will be inducted by Paul McCartney.

Ahmet Ertugun Award recipient, Clarence Avant, will be inducted by Lionel Richie.

It has not been announced who will induct Todd Rundgren, Kraftwerk, LL Cool J, Charley Patton, Gil Scott-Heron and Randy Rhoads.

We look forward to seeing who else will be named as presenters and performers.

When you follow halls of fame as diligent as we do, it is a festive season when you have the Baseball Hall of Fame and Football Hall of Fame announce their classes a week about.  Throw in the fact that the Rock and Roll Hall is now announcing their Finalists, we have an unprecedented time on our hands.

Due to COVID-19, the nomination process for the Class of 2021 was delayed by several months, but until two days ago there was no set date as to when it we learn who would be on the ballot.

The nominees are:

Carole King:  Ranked #87 on Notinhalloffame.com.  King entered the Rock Hall a long time ago as a songwriter with her partner, Gerry Goffin, but her solo work as a performer is also Hall worthy.  This is the first time she has been nominated since 1989.

Chaka Khan:  Ranked #168 on Notinhalloffame.com.  The Hall wants Chaka Khan in, as they have nominated her in the past as a solo, and later with the group, Rufus.  Again, as a solo, this is her sixth overall nomination.

Devo:  Ranked #80 on Notinhalloffame.com.  Devo returns to the ballot after a year, and their work in Post-Punk/New Wave is among the most influential of its day.

Dionne Warwick:  Ranked #362 on Notinhalloffame.com. Warwick has a trophy case full of Grammys and a laundry list of hits, but with an Adult Contemporary sound, her rock and roll credibility is suspect.  That hasn’t stopped Hall voters before.

Fela Kuti:  Ranked #397 on Notinhalloffame.com.  Every year there is a wild card, and this is year it is Fela Kuti, the most important singer from Africa.  If the Rock Hall voters value world music, he is the best choice they could make.

Foo Fighters:  Ranked #3 on Notinhalloffame.com.  Foo Fighters are in their first year of eligibility and it should be no surprise to anyone that they were nominated, nor should anyone be shocked to see them gain immediate entry.  An induction will make Dave Grohl a two-time inductee, having already been enshrined with Nirvana.

The Go-Go’s:  Ranked #111 on Notinhalloffame.com.  The Go-Go’s were he first all-female band to go #1 on Billboard, and this is their first nomination since being eligible in 2006.

Iron Maiden:  Ranked #13 on Notinhalloffame.com.  This is a pleasant surprise as the Heavy Metal gods have never been nominated despite being eligible since the 2004 vote.  Heavy Metal has struggled to find representation in the Rock Hall, and in the past few years, Judas Priest and Motorhead have been on the ballot, but failed to gain entry.  It might be a hard call to see Iron Maiden achieving what the others did not.

Jay-Z:  Ranked #2 on Notinhalloffame.com.  Jay-Z is one of the most important, if not THE most important hip-hop artist in the last thirty years.  If you don’t agree with that assessment, you can’t deny that he is among the most successful.  Like Foo Fighters, Jay-Z is on their first year of eligibility and he should get in.

Kate Bush:  Ranked #132 on Notinhalloffame.com.  Bush’s unique singing voice was only matched by her unique material. She was nominated before in 2018.

LL Cool J:  Ranked #100 on Notinhalloffame.com.  LL Cool J is nominated for the fifth time, but he again he is not the biggest named Hip Hop artist on the ballot.  The nomination of Jay-Z hurts LL Cool J more than anyone else, but there is no reason that two Hip Hop stars can’t get inducted in the same year.

Mary J. Blige:  Ranked #252 on Notinhalloffame.com.  Blige earns her first nomination on her third year of eligibility. Her diverse catalogue earns her a spot, but with other more established African-American women on this ballot, this will be a tough one for her to get elected on.

The New York Dolls:  Ranked #89 on Notinhalloffame.com.  The New York Dolls are this year’s proto-punk/punk nominee and the David Johansen led group were nominated once before, back in 2001.

Rage Against the Machine:  Ranked #40 on Notinhalloffame.com.  RATM is on their third ballot, and finding a group that fused rap and hard rock/metal better than them is a daunting task.

Tina Turner:  Ranked #113 on Notinhalloffame.com.  Tina Turner was long ago inducted as one half of Ike & Tina, but Tina’s solo career far eclipsed the duo in popularity.  This is the first time that Tina has been nominated as a solo, and should she get in, she joins Stevie Nicks as female double-inductee.

Todd Rundgren:  Ranked #12 on Notinhalloffame.com.  Rundgren’s overall body of work as a performer, songwriter and producer puts many Rock and Roll Hall of Famers to shame.  Eligible since 1996, Rundgren had to wait until 2018 for his first nomination, and he was also on the ballot last year.  

We know there will be copious amounts of rage regarding who was not nominated.  There always is.  We do feel that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominating committee did a good job nominating musicians across a musical landscape, and have for the last seven years. 

This ballot also has the greatest number of women in nominating history.

What happens next is up to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame voters.

Congratulations to all the Finalists, and let the debate again.

The Memphis Music Hall of Fame has announced the Class of 2019 and let’s get right to the impending inductees.

Dee Dee Bridgewater:  Bridgewater has won Grammys and Tonys and her career has spanned over 40 years.

Don Bryant: Bryant wrote songs for Solomon Burke, Albert King and Etta James.  

Steve Cropper:  Cropper was already a member of the Memphis Music Hall of Fame as a member of Booker T. & the MGs and he enters a second time for his work as a songwriter, guitarist and producer.  Cropper is a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with the rest of his Booker T. & the MGs bandmates.

Madame Florence Cole Talbert McCleave: McLeave was the first African-American opera singer to perform abroad and is a true pioneer of the genre.

The Memphis Boys: The Memphis Boys were a session band who worked at American Sound Studios from 1967 to 1972 where they recorded 122 records including songs for the likes of Bobby Womack, Elvis Presley, Neil Diamond and Dusty Springfield.  The group consisted of Reggie Young (Guitar), Gene Chrisman (Drums), Bobby Wood (Piano), Bobby Emmons (Organ), Mike Leech (Bass) and Tommy Cogbill (Bass).  

Charles Musselwhite: Musselwhite is a Blues legend who has won seven Grammys and 30 Blues Music Awards.

Dan Penn: Penn was a successful songwriter whose songs were performed by Aretha Franklin, Janis Joplin and Conway Twitty.  His most signature songs were “The Letter” (made a hit by The Box Tops) and “I’m Your Puppet”.

Tina Turner: From Nutbush, Tennessee, Turner would rock the music world with her ex-husband, Ike in the 1960s and 1970s and the duo would be elected into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  The acid queen resurrected her career in the 1980s as a solo superstar with her Private Dancer album.

This is the eighth class of the Hall of Fame’s existence.  It is operated by the Smithsonian branded Memphis Rock and Soul Museum.

We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to congratulate the Class of 2019.

 

We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to congratue the Class of 2019.

R&B was never more energetic than when done by Ike & Tina Turner.  Though many of their hits were covers, few would touch them after Ike & Tina got through with them.  They may be better known for Ike’s domestic violence towards Tina as opposed to the music they created.

Debating the merits of someone who is already in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with another group is commonplace here. Debating the merits of someone who eclipsed her former act in terms of success and notoriety though not necessarily musically is a little new for us. We can’t help but feel that Tina Turner falls in to that category.