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As always, we try to expand here at Notinhalloffame.com.



In approximately six weeks we will have our Notinhalloffame.com Rock and Roll list updated, which countdowns the top 500 plus acts that deserve Rock and Roll Hall of Fame consideration.



As always, the revisions take out those who were just inducted, adds the new eligible artists worthy of the list and adjust rankings based on your votes and comments.

In the meantime, we have expanded our Futures section to include those musicians who are eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2027.

The entire group can be found here.  However the quick list of who are featured are:


Above & Beyond
Adam Green
Alexisonfire
Athlete
Audioslave
Avril Lavigne
Black Lips
Breaking Benjamin
Cee Lo Green
Coheed and Cambria
Darius Rucker
Dirty Projectors
Fall Out Boy
Flight of the Conchords
Fucked Up
Girl Talk
Hilary Duff
Hot Chip
Iron & Wine
Jason Mraz
Justin Timberlake
Killer Mike
Kylesa
LCD Soundsytem
Maroon 5
mewithoutyou
My Chemical Romance
P.O.S.
Peter Bjorn and John
Rihanna
Simple Plan
Sirenia
Something Corporate
Stone Sour
Taking Back Sunday
Talib Kweli
The All-American Rejects
The Black Keys
The Darkness
The Decemberists
The Devil Makes Three
The Early November
The Libertines
The Mars Volta
The Raveonettes
The Used
The Walkmen
Theory of a Dead Man
Thirty Seconds to Mars
Trapt
UnderOath
Vanessa Carlton
Xiu Xiu
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Young Knives


You known what we want you to do!

Take a look at this group of 2027 eligibles and let us know who should be considered for Cleveland!
Over interactions with fans over Twitter, Megadeth’s front man Dave Mustaine stated that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are “opposed” to him being a member.

When asked by a fan whether it was “past time” for Megadeth to enter the Rock Hall, Mustaine responded as such:

“I think that the @rockhall is opposed to me being in there.  It is one of my bucket list items: The R&R HOF and my Grammy.”

This generated a bit of conversation on Mustane’s timeline, prompting another fan to state that he deserved both a spot in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and a Grammy Award.  Mustaine had this in response:

“Thank you. I just wish that both of those boards felt the same way that you do.  I am in there bcuz of Met in a way. But I’d like Megs to go!

Metallica was inducted in 2009.  Mustaine was with the band from 1981 to 1983 before being let go and replaced by Kirk Hammett.  Mustaine was not chosen by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to be part of the band members inducted, which is believed to be stongly influnced by Metallica themsleves who by their own admission in previous interviews did not go to bat for with the Rock Hall.

In previous interviews, Mustaine states that Metallica would not have gotten as far as they did without his contributions.  Needless to say there are varying opinions on that, including from Metallica members themselves. 

Drummer, Lars Ulrich has said in previous interviews that “you have to cap it somewhere and that there were multiple members in the group in the early days. 

Mustaine was invited to the ceremony, though did not go citing European commitments…though we don’t blame him for not going. 

At present, Megadeth is ranked #120 on the Notinhalloffame.com Rock and Roll list, though we will be revising that next month to reflect those who were inducted and those who are newly eligible.

Either way, this is what we love about the Rock Hall.  It never ceases to cause controversy. 





As you all know Pearl Jam expectedly entered the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on the first ballot.  You might also know that Dave Abbruzzese, their former drummer will not be joining the band as he was not named amongst the members whom the Rock Hall deemed relevant enough to be inducted. 

Of the five drummers that Pearl Jam had, the original, Dave Krusen and current drummer, Matt Cameron are being inducted.  Krusen was let go from the band in 1991 following problems with alcohol but he was the drummer on their breakthrough album, Ten.  Cameron joined the band in 1998 after performing for another potential Rock and Roll Hall of Fame band, Soundgarden, who he also returned to drum for.

Abbruzzese joined in 1991 and was with the band until he was let go in 1994.  He played on Vs. and Vitalogy, two very successful albums for the band.

He had the following to say on his Facebook page:

“So… Rock & Roll Hall of F**ktardia. Ergh. It makes absolutely zero sense to me… As the original ballot is created, the members of each eligible band are determined by largely who was present and active during the most influential recording years. I'm not sure how 275+ live shows and 38% of record sales doesn't fit their criteria…

The qualifications required for me to have been inducted with my former band mates certainly have been met. I challenge anyone to justify why I am not worthy of a place in the history of Pearl Jam.  The official reason given from the RRHOF makes it bullshit. It makes my years of hard work appear to be worthless towards the success born of the formative years of Pearl Jam.  This is simply not the case.”

Just what influence each inducted band has in regards to which members get in is certainly up for debate.  Ultimately, the decision lies with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame itself.

Either way, it would not be a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class without a bit of controversy would it?

This is kind of our Christmas morning.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has announced their 2017 Class, and let’s get right to it.

Pearl Jam, enters on their first year of eligibility and did this surprise anyone at all?  When you think of what the RRHOF is looking for in an inductee they met every criteria and the discussion to enter the Cleveland probably didn’t even exist.  They didn’t have to debate it all.

Tupac also joins as a first ballot inductee.  No word yet as to whether his hologram will be making an appearance at the ceremony, but like Pearl Jam this was largely expected.

Journey, who won the fan vote, also got in on their first nomination, though they have been long eligible.  This is the fourth year in a row where the winner of the fan vote gained entry into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Progressive Rock finally saw Yes get in after twenty plus years of eligibility.  Arguably, this was of the biggest bands of their genre who had yet to get in.

The Electric Light Orchestra will also be inducted.  Jeff Lynne has long been one of the most respected musicians in the industry and for what it is worth, now all of the Wilburys are Hall of Famers.

The surprise inductee was Joan Baez, who also got in on her first nomination, albeit after thirty-four years of eligibility.  Baez was a folk icon, and she is the lone female to enter the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year.

Perhaps the biggest relief (in our eyes) is that Chic’s Nile Rodgers will be entering the Hall as the recipient of the Award for Musical Excellence.  Chic had been nominated annually without getting in, and this is likely going to put an end to that debacle. 

Those not selected were Depeche Mode, Janet Jackson, Bad Brains, Jane’s Addiction, The Cars, Chic, The J. Geils Band, Kraftwerk, MC5, Steppenwolf, The Zombies, Joe Tex and Chaka Khan.

We will have a deeper look at this later in the week and we will also begin work on reworking our Notinhalloffame.com Rock and Roll list in late January.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame have never been one to embrace the heavy metal genre as there are many great acts (Iron Maiden, Judas Priest) that have not been inducted.  James Hetfield of Metallica, a band that is the Rock Hall, has gone on record that he wants to see Motörhead inducted.

In an interview with Gary Moore at KLOS in Los Angeles, Hetfield had this to say about Motörhead:

With the passing of Lemmy, it's really, really important for me to see Motörhead acknowledged in that.  Cause there's no more rock and roll person on this planet than Lemmy and Motörhead."

I loved being murdered every night by that thing, man. He was just such an icon, such an inspiration to us as a band. There's certainly no way we'd be around if there was no Motörhead.”

Motorhead were not named Finalists this year and neither were any metal bands.  They have been eligible for the Hall since 2002.



 
Tupac Shakur has been nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and has a good chance of getting inducted.  If Common has his way, there will be a lot more to follow.

As part of an interview with Rolling Stone, the rapper/actor had this to say:

Queen Latifah is one of the first people to come to mind, A Tribe Called Quest. De La Soul! De La Soul is so powerful. Nas and OutKast are some that come to mind, as well."

The precedent of rap finding a place in the Rock Hall has long been underway with Grandmaster Flash paving the way for other artists like Run DMC, Public Enemy and N.W.A. to follow. 

Nas and OutKast are not yet eligible for the Rock Hall, but will be ranked high by us once eligible.

Now we sit and wait for Gene Simmons’ response.
Is this really a controversy?

Those of you following the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year know that for the first time, Journey was nominated for the Hall.  Going against past tradition, the Cleveland bases institution has announced which members of nominated bands would receive induction.  Current Journey singer, Arnel Pineda is not listed on the ballot, which has made keyboardist, Jonathan Cain a little upset.

“There is no Journey without Arnel right now. He certainly has earned his stripes. He's been with us longer than any lead singer has consecutively stayed in the band. He's given us 10 years straight, not running off or doing this, doing that, just being The Guy. So that's worth something,"

While Pineda has been with them a long time and unquestionably has a voice that can match original singer, Steve Perry, it was Perry who originally sang and recorded the hits…which is what they still play predominantly today.

At present, Journey is doing very well with the fan vote, often a precursor for future induction.  Should that happen could we see a temporary reunion with Perry?

Could be!
Bon Jovi is one of the most successful rock bands of all time, there is no denying that.  Around since the early 1980’s, this is a band that can still sell out an arena tour so you would think they would have garnered more attention from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  Apart from a lone nomination in 2011, there have been no signs that they have been considered since.  As you might expect, this might stick in the craw of the bands leader, Jon Bon Jovi.  In an interview today with Howard Stern, he indicated just that.

When asked by Stern about the band’s omission from the Rock Hall, Bon Jovi stated that he had “bad blood between one of the guy’s running the Rock Hall”:

“I called him a few choice words and I'm never shy, when I see him, to call him a few more choice words…And there's other guys on that thing that have made it their personal mission to f*** with me. And that's okay. I get it. I've sold more records than their artists."

The rocker did not state which person it was, but the common guess is that it is one of two people; Rock and Roll Hall of Fame President, Joel Peresmen or Rolling Stone’s Jann Wenner, who is the Chairman and Founder of the Hall.

The snub of Bon Jovi could very well be a long one.  Kiss waited over fifteen years to get in, and they too famously had a beef with Wenner. 

In all likelihood, Bon Jovi will eventually get in, and probably should.  We have a feeling they are going to make them wait for it.



For the fourth year in a row, we here at Notinhalloffame.com will be predicting whom the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will be naming as Finalists for the next class.

This year, I am joined again by our own DDT and Spheniscus and we will see which one of us can correctly predict the Finalists of the most debated Hall of Fame worldwide. 
“I don’t want to be a belong to any club that will accept me as a member.”

Ok, that Groucho Marx quote isn’t exactly accurate, but Steve Miller still isn’t happy about being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

As we discussed previously, Miller was quite vocal about his distaste for the 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Ceremony, of which he was finally inducted after a long wait.  Miller infamously railed on the Hall at the post ceremony press conference but on the Howard Stern Show, he had a lot more to say:

“It's gonna get better. I'm gonna get these guys. They're gonna be sorry that they treated all these people this way…I'm planning to keep it in the news. I'm planning to investigate them. I've already got all of their public documents. I want to see where they're spending the money. I wanna see who's being paid. I wanna check it all out ... The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's actually going to go to Cleveland. The Museum's actually gonna mean something. The funding they raise is actually gonna be used for music education before I'm done."

Miller trashed the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame committee, calling them “fucked-up” and “inbred”.

Is this the rambling of a cranky old man or is Miller on to something with the Rock and Roll Hall?

Either way, it will always be interesting in Cleveland.

You can always count on Slipknot’s Corey Taylor for speaking his mind, so when Loudwire asked him his thoughts on the Gene Simmons/N.W.A. controversy, you have to know that he would not skirt the issue.

He had the following to say:

“I see what Gene's saying, and, you know, I'm old-school guy as well; I get it. But at the same time, the more I look at what N.W.A. did, man, I mean, they influenced me, and I'm a rock and roll guy. So how do they not deserve to be in there? To me, bands like that, bands like RUN–D.M.C., it's a different type of band, but it's a band, man. I mean, that's straight up. So I can see both sides of it."



"I have bigger problems with the Hall Of Fame than some of the people who have gone in. Mine has more to do with the fact that until this year, CHEAP TRICK and DEEP PURPLE weren't in. That, to me, is disrespectful on a whole other level. Does N.W.A. deserve to be in. You're goddamn right they do. But did CHEAP TRICK and DEEP PURPLE deserve to be in years before they got in? You're damn right they did. So that whole organization needs to figure out who they're gonna honor and when, because there are still bands right now who aren't in that should be."



Simmons had previously criticized the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for inducting N.W.A. and other hip-hop acts as they were not “Rock and Roll”.

Now are we done talking about this?

Probably not.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will always be controversial.  Hell, this was the impetus for creating Notinhalloffame.com!  While that may all be true, this was the evening where the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame officially inducted their latest class and whether you agree with the inductees or not, it is always a signature event and a big night for us.

While we felt that Deep Purple were the unequivocal headliners, they were actually the first inductees.  Inducted by Metallica drummer, Lars Ulrich, Deep Purple played a three song set of Hush, Highway Star and of course, Smoke on the Water.  While it was a great performance, it could not help but feel it was a little hollow without Ritchie Blackmore present.

Steve Miller was inducted next and performed Fly Like an Eagle and Rock N Me and during his induction mentioned how the song, “The Joker” saved his career. 

Kendrick Lamar then came on stage to induct N.W.A., and asked for permission to curse during his speech.  Referencing Eazy E. as the founder of “Reality Rap”, the four surviving members of N.W.A. took to the stage with Ice Cube proclaiming that they were Rock and Roll and how it was a “spirit”.  That might be the most poignant moment of the night.  Sadly, they did not perform, but they did deliver the best induction speech of the evening.

Chicago were up next and though they were without Peter Cetera, they delighted the crowd in hand with a stirring rendition of Saturday in the Park.  It is worth noting that this was the group who the fans voted for the most on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame poll. 

Cheap Trick was the final inductee, and while they are not necessarily the most important inductees, but it was their live performances overseas that would eventually make them stars in the United States.  A Cheap Trick set to close the show?  Why not!

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame show will be shown on HBO on April 30 and we have already updated our Notinhalloffame.com list to reflect those who are eligible next year. 





The Smashing Pumpkins are eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and if you ask Billy Corgan, the lead singer and founding member, they are definitely worthy of a spot in Cleveland.

In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, Corgan was asked about that and had the following to say:

I get asked about that a lot.  If it's a meritocracy, I think my band belongs in there because we were one of the prime bands of our era and we continue to be a top band. Next year will be, technically, our 30th year. So the fact that I've been in this band, you know, essentially 25 of the last 30 years, I think that says something.

Whole genres of music get overlooked and people don't get put in because somebody's mad at somebody from 30 years ago, I'm only speaking as a fan, but it's hard to trust the institution as a meritocracy when you have people in there who weren't very influential, didn’t sell a lot of records but because somebody somewhere was a fan, they're in. And then you have other people who were hugely influential and they go, 'Well, you know…”

Corgan is right, in that Smashing Pumpkins were a major part of the Alternative music boom of the early 1990’s, but realistically they have not been a relevant band for years.

Should the band get in, it is likely that only the classic lineup would be included and not the ones that are in now.  Corgan is the only founding member left and he is not on the best of terms with his former bandmates.

He was asked that very question:

“I can't answer those kinds of questions," he says. "What if I say I will come and then 17 years later, when I'm in a wheelchair, they finally bring me in? I don't fucking know. I just saw Rick Nielsen from Cheap Trick and I said, 'It’s about fucking time they put you in. What the fuck?' And Rick being Rick, he laughed. He said, 'I don’t give a shit. I’m in now.' I think at the end of the day you hope that it's fair and you get in on your accomplishment and it’s not a political thing. But I don't know what to think about any of that anymore."

At present, we have Smashing Pumpkins ranked relative high, at 48, but with the arrival of Pearl Jam to the newly eligible list, we are thinking they will get that “spot”.



Any thoughts on Corgan’s Hall of Fame stance?

Two new inductors have been named for the upcoming Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony on April 8.

Pioneering rap group, N.W.A., will be inducted by Kendrick Lamar, who has long cited the hip-hop icons as a major influence in his career. 

Kid Rock will be on hand to induct the Chicago based band, Cheap Trick.

These two superstars will join Lars Ulrich (believed to be inducting Deep Purple) and The Black Keys (believed to be inducting Chicago).

We are sure that there will be more news (and potentially drama) with the impending ceremony as it wouldn’t be a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction without it!



While it was announced by Ice Cube that N.W.A. would be performing at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, another key figure has announced that he won’t be.

Former Chicago front man, Peter Cetera had this to say on his blog:

"Unfortunately, this scenario doesn't work for me. I know we all did our best to make it happen, but I guess it's just not meant to be…Personally, I'm frustrated and tired of dealing with this and it's time to move on."

That doesn’t exactly explain a lot does it?

It has been speculated that Cetera and the rest of the band could not agree on which song to perform.

Cetera was with the band from the beginning until leaving to focus on his solo career.  He would emerge as the main lead singer for the group and the groups most notable hits, “If You Leave Me Now”, “25 or 6 to 4” and “Baby, What A Big Surprise”.

This will not prevent a performance form the rest of the band as Chicago is expected to perform at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony in April.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will be having an exhibit this weekend devoted to the 2012 inductee, The Beastie Boys.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame curator, Meredith Rutledge-Bolger told Cleveland.co that they had “a rich, deep collection of stuff” from when the Beastie Boys were inducted in 2012. 

This includes hand written lyrics to “Brass Monkey” the Volkswagon medallion that belonged to Mike D, and their outfits from the “Intergalactic” video.

Perhaps we have another reason to visit Cleveland?









Ice Cube and Kevin Hart were guests on the Graham Norton show, and while much of the attention resulting from it were on Ice Cube’s take on the Academy Awards only nominating white actors, we found something far more interesting for our purposes.

“We are playing the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and then there is Coachella, and I'm going to try and get all the guys together and do an amazing show”

We don’t know about you, but considering that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame constantly has inducted acts fail to perform due to bickering or other personal issues, the fact that N.W.A. will be performing is of great value to us.

As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com will be watching the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony and are sure that many of you will be doing the same. 

Thankfully, we have another reason to watch!





Gang, this is the time where we ask your help!

As you know, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has made their announcement as to who has made their Hall of Fame for the Class of 2016.  This will necessitate a change in our ranking and through the years, you have let us know what you thought with your comments and votes, with those who are on the rock list.

You have also let us know on our “Rock and Roll Futures” with a comment or two, but now the next batch of futures will be placed on the list.

We would like to hear where you would consider ranking the following:



Alanis Morissette

Bikini Kill

Boyz II Men

Crash Test Dummies

Cypress Hill

Helmet

Kyuss

Live

Marc Anthony

Mercury Rev

Naughty by Nature

Pearl Jam

PM Dawn

Ricky Martin

Seal

The Cranberries

The Prodigy

Tori Amos

Tupac Shakur



Many thanks to all of you have told us your thoughts and have voted on the rock and other lists that we have.

We intend to have the new Rock list up as soon as we can!



We thought this was interesting

In an interview with Rolling Stone Magazine, Slipknot frontman, Corey Taylor was asked about this year’s class of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  Taylor’s bluntness might entertain a lot of you:


“The fact that Madonna got in before Deep Purple got in? Those people can kiss my ass. Like, fuck you. Stop calling it the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Stop. Because it's obvious that you don't give a shit about rock & roll. If you did, bands like Deep Purple and Cheap Trick would've been in years ago. And that's fucking upsetting. Call it the Popular Music Hall of Fame. Call it anything other than that. Because all you do is fucking piss me off.”


Taylor was later asked his opinion if Slipknot would later be inducted:


“No. I wouldn't even go, dude. I don't give a shit. All of that stuff is counterproductive. It's like, "Oh, God. I hope they like me." That's why you go out on tour. That's why you try to sell albums. I don't give a shit about a museum. Put me in a fucking museum? Are you kidding me? We'll put our own museum together and share it with our fans.”





I don’t about you, but there was a big part of us that enjoyed reading that!



When we set up our inaugural Notinhalloffame.com Rock and Roll list, the con that we stated against inducting Deep Purple was the immense amount of members that they had in the band and who they would induct.  As it turns out, members of Deep Purple had the same concerns.

With the announcement that Deep Purple would be inducted, drummer, Ian Paice had this to say about those who would be chosen for the Rock Hall, and those who were not:

"It'll be interesting, won't it?  It's a somewhat complicated situation. The personalities that are involved didn't always get on terrifically well, so that has to be taken into consideration. I don't think there'll be anybody swinging at anybody else -- I think there's a possibility that some people just won't be there. We may all turn up and be happy on the night and it'll go wonderfully well, or two or three people will be studiously ignoring each other. It could almost be like a reality TV show. I'd rather it wasn't, but there we go.

"If they ask us to play there, who's gonna play what? Who's prepared to play what, and with who? As we've been blessed with so many virtuoso players in the band over the years, it might have been easier to take us individually to be inducted rather than as a band. We've just got a lot of details to work out -- what they're going to ask us to do, what we can do, what will be impossible. It's not a band of four or five guys who have stayed together throughout their career and are asked to do something. It's more complex than that. So we'll just have to make a decision of what's right for us, not what's right for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Everybody who's ever been involved with the band, even for a short time, is instrumental in making it work and ensuring it still exists to this day. So I think if you're gonna do it, everybody should have been invited to join the club.”

Paice is referring to the fact that several key members of Deep Purple’s past and present were not chosen to be inducted.  These notable members are:

Steve Morse, a current band member and guitarist since 1994.

Don AIrey, a current band member and keyboardist since 2001.

Tommy Bolin, a guitarist with the band from 1975 to 1976.

Joe Lynn Turner, the lead vocalist on their 1990 album, Slaves and Masters. 

Would it be a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony without drama?

Of course not, and we here at Notinhalloffame.com are looking forward to watching it all unfold.